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Redeye

02-05-2003 13:52:49




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Went to rebuild the lift cylinders on my Case 450 and found one is a little bent. Does anybody know of an aftermarket site to get a cheap replacement piston rod?

JR




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george md

02-06-2003 21:08:26




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
Redeye, Try to straighten , but cushion all the contact points with soft material -brass copper aluminum- and be prepared for it to break , case uses heat treated chrome rods . Most hyd shops won't make you one and shouldn't . I buy chrome stock and make rods for many cylinders , but not case .

george



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Max

02-06-2003 20:37:16




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
Back when I was working on these units and other Case equipment, if the rod wasn't severely scored with grooves, the rod could be bent back with not problems. We would carefully find the high spot of the bend and bend it back by pressing a little beyond straight until straight. Just don't try to go to much at first just a little at a time. Also be sure to check you circuit reliefs after you get it back together. The circuit reliefs are in the circuits to prevent the rod from bending in the first place. The pressure should be set at 1600psi.

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Hakan ÇElik

02-06-2003 06:28:01




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
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Hakan ÇElik

02-06-2003 06:27:57




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
DEAR SİRS WE ARE LEADİNG COMPANY TO MANUFACTURİNG OF HYDRAULİC STEERİNG SETS OF FIAT,FORD STEYR,MASSEY FERGUSON,DEUTZ,ZETOR,UNIVERSAL ,SAME, FARM,EBRO TRACTORS İN TURKEY. I THANKS İN ADVANCE TO FOR YOUR COOPERATİON. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU. BEST REGARDS HAKAN ÇELİK TEL:+90 338 2134088 FAX:+90 338 2120403 ADRES: YENİ SANAYİ SİTESİ 15. BLOK NO:6 KARAMAN/TURKEY

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Marc

02-05-2003 17:55:46




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
Check the following site link and see if the cylinder rod you need is listed and if it is reasonably priced. You will probably need a seal kit also.

Thanks, Marc



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Bob/Ont

02-05-2003 14:03:49




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
Redeye, a good hyd shop should know some place to either grind it down and rechrome it or rerod it for you. It might seem like too much money to do but it will cost a lot if you ignore it.
Later Bob



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John

02-05-2003 14:03:45




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 Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to Redeye, 02-05-2003 13:52:49  
I've straightened rods before using a hydraulic press. Depending on the size of the rod it is easily done.



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Deas Plant.

02-07-2003 11:36:48




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 Re: Re: Hydraulic Piston Rod in reply to John, 02-05-2003 14:03:45  
Hi, Redeye. To straighten a hydraulic cylinder rod, you will need:
1. A reasonably good hydraulic press - the bigger the rod diameter, the more grunt the press will need.
2. Several blocks of hardwood - somewhere around 2x3 or 2x4 is usually good but you will need thicker pieces if you have a piston diameter that leaves 2 inches or more of the piston clear around the rod. Also, a piece of 1/2 inch or thicker steel plate to put on top of the short hardwood block that you are going to place ON TOP of the rod between it and the press ram.
3. A good engineers straight edge or other straight edged piece of steel or aluminium - aluminium is good for obvious reasons.
4. A warm sunny day.

Leave the bent rod in the sun for several hours to warm up. When it no longer feels cool to touch it will be ready, but if you can leave it until it feels slightly warm to touch it is even better.

Place the rod in the press on the hardwood blocks so that NO part of the rod, piston or eye is touching any part of the bed of the press.

Apply pressure at the centre of the bend with another short hardwood block laid along the rod and the piece of steel plate on top of that between rod and press ram head.

Do not attempt to take all the bend out in one go. This is what breaks rods. Take a little at a time and move the rod slightly back and forth through the press between pushes so that you are pressing in a slightly different place each time. Around an inch either way is usually sufficient. This will help not only to eliminate rod breakages but also stop two smaller opposite bends appearing, one each side of the centre of your original bend.

Use your straight edge to check when you are getting close.

You may have bent the rod quite quickly but that is no reason to rush the straightening of it. Slow and steady is definitely the best formula here.

I have had many major engineering shops refuse to touch bent rods. The man who showed me was an 'almost backyarder', a middle-aged Danish immigrant to Australia, who was rushed off his feet with work. Musta bin sumpin goin' on there.

Happy rod straightening.

you have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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