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VaTom

03-14-2003 05:36:43




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Something I've successfully avoided I finally have to deal with, splitting the track. Can't rebuild the hydraulic tensioner without. My manual says to remove the master pin plug and use a special tool to pull the tapered pin. While I'm in there I need to repair ends of the engine support which is broken on both sides. Hasn't been a problem but now one track is starting to try to slip off during non-braked turns.

First, how does the plug come out?
Second, what is the special tool to remove the tapered pin and can I make one?
Third, any advice on the engine supports and could that be the cause of my track problem?

This is an amazingly clean old tractor and after I rebuilt the transmission, it's running GREAT. All help appreciated.

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rick

01-25-2004 10:02:34




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 Re: Cat 933 Track in reply to VaTom, 03-14-2003 05:36:43  
Have a 933G and need to rebuild transmission, can you tell me where you got your parts to rebuild. Thanks.



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Mac

03-14-2003 16:34:55




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 Re: Cat 933 Track in reply to VaTom, 03-14-2003 05:36:43  
I am surprised that you have that type of master pin Cats stopped using that in the sixties,if you have it you take out the cork plug,put a 3/8 bolt through a 3/4 socket with a washer under the head and screw it into the taper dowel,tighten it up and it will pull the dowel out,(inside as well)it is more likely that you have a press fit master pin,if you have you will have to find it,it should be the only pin with a dimple in the centre in the chain,you will have to make up a drift,weld a handle to a suitable piece of bar just smaller than the pin,put the master pin in front of the idler at twenty five past on the clock face aginst a square block of wood,get someone to hold the drift and try to sledge the pin out,if it does not move after a good few John Wayne type blows stop as there is a danger of the pin swelling,you will need to heat the eyes of the links up but not the pin,inside link as well and apply more sledge,don't know about your engine supports is there something broken?.
Mac

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VaTom

03-14-2003 18:28:49




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 Re: Re: Cat 933 Track in reply to Mac, 03-14-2003 16:34:55  
Hi Mac,

Thanks for your thoughts. Spent some time today on the phone with Cat. My manual talks about ancient, obsolete pins, like you said. In addition to one pin that looks a little like what the manual described, there's another one with the dimple. Cat says it's not unusual to have two master pins after a field repair but not much chance of an old master pin lasting from the 60's. Beats me. No telling how many previous owners.

They also said to look at the numbers on the links. Unfortunately they are all the same. There is supposed to be a different number for the master. They gave me the possible numbers but none are on my track.

Tomorrow I'm going to attack the dimpled pin with a loaned hydraulic press. Whatever the other pin is, it can stay there. The guy who loaned me the press warned me against whacking an unsupported (from the back side) link as it would only bounce. Make sense to you? He thinks something needs to be wedged between the track and something that won't move, like the engine housing. Is that why you said twenty-five past on the clock face? I'm lost on your wood block placement. The manual says 9 o'clock position if the outside of the idler was a clock face. I'm hoping that the press will fit. Pad has to come off first.

Both ends of the engine support are broken between the inner track frame attachment and the outer track frame attachment, if that makes any sense. The side I'm having trouble with had been repaired with 3/4" bar stock welded on very poorly and since then, broken loose. I don't brag on my welding but I can do a LOT better than what's there. At present there's a 1/8" misalignment between the broken ends and of course nothing to stabilize the outer track rail. The other side, also broken, at least lines up. Hasn't been a problem until very recently.

Thanks for mentioning the heat. I'd considered it but didn't know if it was a good idea. Cat says to just beat on it. With a bigger hammer if it doesn't move. Wouldn't be the first time I got some questionable advice from them.

My old JD crawler was a lot easier to split the track, not that I want it back. This has been a great machine for me and I have another 1/2 mile driveway to cut up a mountain. Thanks again,

Tom

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Mac

03-14-2003 19:58:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Cat 933 Track in reply to VaTom, 03-14-2003 18:28:49  
If you got the track press you should have no problem, put it on at the most convenient place,what I ment by putting a block of wood in front of the idler and driving the machine up against it was to hold the track against the idler while you knock the pin out.I leave the pad on when knocking the pin out with a drift as it stops the link from spreading,it will be as tight in the inside link as the outside.
Good Luck
Mac

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