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steve

03-22-2003 19:45:32




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Hi guys, am looking at a JD 440 crawler. Has 2 cylinder gas engine and is equipped with a bucket, not a blade ( Hi lift ). I am much more used to wheel tractors and would appreciate any info anyone would be willing to share. My intention if I purchase would be to clean up a small woods about 20 acres, build small roadways in it, and grade work for a driveway. Would eventually probably get or have a set of forks made to load logs onto a sawmill. Crawler appears to be in decent overall shape, not beat to heck, does have minor oil drips, but looks good overall. Anybody out there used to run one, or still do? anything in particular I should check out on it? Known problems with this type of crawler? 2 cylinder give decent power? anything you could tell me will be appreciated. Much obliged, steve.

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Lavoy

03-23-2003 18:27:07




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 Re: JD 440 in reply to steve, 03-22-2003 19:45:32  
Steve,
Check the finals to see if they have been blown out on the top, check center section and bolts to see if anything loose, or broken.
THe 440 is a good machine when used properly and maintained, just like any other crawler. Will do a lot of work for its size.
I just got one back together with a #300 sideboom yesterday, and looked at a diesel loader I sold to a neighbor, he is just about done with it. Has backhoe mounts, and he is going to put a backhoe on it. Spent most of today on a friend's gas w/831 loader, got more painting done, and some more reassembly. He has a #50 backhoe as well.
If you need any parts, or more questions, visit my website.
Lavoy

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JonCT

03-23-2003 16:42:19




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 Re: JD 440 in reply to steve, 03-22-2003 19:45:32  
A word of caution... be careful when you make your forks and when you are lifting logs. Many people have been killed when logs roll back down the loader arms and land on the operator!



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Fred P

03-23-2003 10:12:48




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 Re: JD 440 in reply to steve, 03-22-2003 19:45:32  
I have a 440 loader. It works real good for putting logs on the saw mill. I have done some land clearing and light road building with it. I got it to move logs around the saw mill and log landing. It is a little small, but I have not seen a cat that was not a little small at times, even a D8. It is a real good fence post setter. I sharpen a wood post, stand it up under the bucket and push it into the ground. The soil needs to be a little on the wet side. It is fast and EZ. The forks that I have are made on a clearing blade. The forks are from a fork lift and hinge up over the top of the blade when I want to push brush and swing down to lift logs or lumber. I have lifted and placed on the mill, 500 bf logs. It likes 300 foot logs better. The good thing about it is, it was cheep and parts are cheep also it not to hard to move on a good size trailer behind a 3/4 ton pickup.

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VaTom

03-23-2003 04:43:08




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 Re: JD 440 in reply to steve, 03-22-2003 19:45:32  
Hi Steve,

I hope you're not looking at the one that used to live here. Has it been converted to 12 volts? My ambitions were the same as yours. I couldn't keep bearings in the final drives. Got real fast at track splitting and repairing. Another problem I had was the 4 bolts holding the (empty) reverser case to the engine, IIRC, that I could never get to stay tight, even with custom bolts. Had the engine out several times. Then there was that carb that every now and again had something break in it...

After several years of frequent repairs I concluded that mine might have been a sastifactory tractor for somebody with smaller trees and only dirt, no stone, to dig in. I had no complaint about the power, and the hydraulics were very fast with plenty of power for the loader, but found that a heavier tractor fit my needs better. Also, my Cat is better balanced in that I've never broken anything working it to its limits, unlike my 440 that used to eat bearings. I managed to crack some 440 castings by pushing it too hard. Fortunately I have a machinist buddy who'd bail me out.

Not to overly run down the 440, there are a lot of them in central Va. Just didn't hold up to what I wanted to do. My Cat cost 50% more than I got from the (good running) 440 and it was the best $2500 I ever spent. Your useage and experience may be very different. Hope it comes with manuals.

Good luck,

Tom

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JJ

03-23-2003 17:06:26




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 Re: Re: JD 440 in reply to VaTom, 03-23-2003 04:43:08  
Hey Tom,

What cat machine did you come up with for 2500?
Do you ever run across deals like that still?
Looking for a good fence row cleaner but don't want to spend the big bucks like you see the vast majority going for.

Thanks,
JJ
polk, ohio



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jd dozer mike

03-25-2003 19:53:43




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 440 in reply to JJ, 03-23-2003 17:06:26  
I have a ICD 440 with a 2 cyl diesel in it.
Seems to me it is a pretty nice machine, it will push out fair sized trees and push dirt quite well. If you end up replacing the steering clutches it will cost you about 1500 bucks, (if you do your own work) and ,you have to remove the under carrage.
Over all i think it is a nice machine for small personal jobs, and yes you can move it with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck and a stout trailer, that is nice too.

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VaTom

03-23-2003 18:29:06




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 Re: Re: Re: JD 440 in reply to JJ, 03-23-2003 17:06:26  
Hi JJ,

Looks like I wasn't very clear. That $2500 was the 50% extra (more than the $5000 I got for my 440, total $7500). Far as I can tell a 933 around here is worth about what I paid for mine. Mine was exceptionally clean though. Apparently spent a good part of its life sitting in a shed. Even at $7500, strikes me as a great deal, especially if my 440 was worth anywhere close to the $5000 I got for it. More than twice the tractor for 50% more money. And more importantly, did the job I asked of it without complaining.

It did finally have a problem I had to split the track on. Hydraulic tensioner sprung a leak as I posted here earlier. All of $39 of Cat parts! Turned out to be immensely more difficult to get that master pin out than the 440, which just about fell out by itself, maybe 'cause I had them out so often.

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