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Deas Plant.

03-31-2003 11:51:06

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Hi, Max. I said at the start of the earlier post under the 'excavator' thread that I didn't want to start a war and I still don't. All I wanted to do was to present a different experience. It is possible that I may have been able to do it better but it is done that way now.
If I have ruffled any feathers, which it appears I have, please accept my apologies. That was NOT my intention.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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04-01-2003 07:33:20

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Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 11:51:06

I have seen a large track hoe with a blade. I cannot remember if it was a Deere or Kobelco. What was so unique about the machine was that the blade had hydraulic folding wings. The wings could be folded in for transport then extended out for working. This hoe was a new machine with very few hours and I would guess it was in the 30 to 40 ton range. I have not seen one like it since. They were using it on a demolition/sewer job in a local town. Wish that I could remember the brand, but I am into dozers and it just didn't pique my interest that much.

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04-01-2003 21:41:12

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Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to RB, 04-01-2003 07:33:20

Whoops, I said 30 to 40 tons, I meant 30-40,000 pounds. Sorry, a senior moment.

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03-31-2003 16:49:34

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Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 11:51:06

You are right Bob, you won't see a blade on anything tracked over 7 ton,you would have to order the machine special order to have the extra ports in the rotary coupling to carry the hydraulic lines plus an extra valve,I think on a average size hoe that a blade would be in the way most of the time,most of the contractors I do work for would have a set of buckets for each machine and keep a couple of grading buckets for when they would be needed,all new machines in the UK come now with a quick hitch fitted and the buckets no longer have removeable pins,no bosses on the hangers,the pins are welded in solid and the buckets are a lot lighter,buckets are now made to fit the quick hitches rather than the end of the stick so they can be interchanged with different makes of machine.
AJ

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Bob/Ont

03-31-2003 12:11:12

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Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 11:51:06

Deas, the only excavators I have seen with a blade are the very small ones and the european wheeled ones. It makes them kind of a do everything machine.Lots of them have a knuckle boom too. The small ones are very popular around here, they can get in places where you would have had to use a wheel barrow and shovel before. Later Bob

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Deas Plant.

03-31-2003 23:40:25

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Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Bob/Ont, 03-31-2003 12:11:12

Hi, Bob. Yep. Pretty much the same deal DownUnder. I think the biggest excavator I have seen with a blade would be about a 10 tonner. These days there are squillions of these little machines from around 2 1/2 to about 10 tons. Many of the people who have excavators up to around 6 tons also have Bobcat-style skid steer loaders with them on the same truck or truck and trailer, along with a whole menagerie of attachments for both.

Knuckle booms are almost mandatory here too, as are tilting heads with quick hitches. The tilting heads fitted to the dipper arm are usually seen on machines up to around 10 to 12 tons. Above that, most people seem to have a tilting head fitted to their mud/batter bucket and use any other buckets straight on to a non-tilting quick hitch.

It is interesting to watch the extra bits and pieces of equipment that these contractors acquire and carry around. If they aren't careful, some of them will need an extra truck just to carry the attachments around.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Gary Mckenzie

04-01-2003 06:44:51

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Re: Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 23:40:25

I've been following the discussion and felt compelled to comment. I have seen one large excavator with a 6-way blade on it, it was in the 40,000lb range and was equipped with double grouser pads with very tall cleats. They were using it on a small lake project and it was working alongside a Dresser TD-15E. I saw them load a dead TD20B, The operator put the blade against the winch, reached over the cab and grabbed under the blade with the bucket and lifted the dozer clear of the ground. He carried it about 50' and placed it on a lowboy. That was the most impressive thing I've seen in a while! It was a Kobelco machine, but I don't know the model. And yes, there were other witnesses!

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Gary

04-01-2003 10:23:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Gary Mckenzie, 04-01-2003 06:44:51

Is the Kobelco ED190 Blade Runner the one you are reffering to?

Here is more info about it>Link

I>Link have never used one myself but it looks like a nice multipurpose machine

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Deas Plant.

04-02-2003 01:12:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Gary, 04-01-2003 10:23:41

Hi, Gary. Thanks for that URL, Gary. I didn't know that machine existed.

The man I work for has a 20 ton Kobleco excavator, but it is an earlier model than that one and doesn't have the blade. But it sure digs.
He has a mud bucket, a bulk digging bucket with rear opening door which can be used as a clamshell or grab, a ripper shank and a hydraulic rock breaker for it. Can't put 'em all the lowboy at once. He has a heavy tandem axle car trailer to carry the mud bucket and/or breaker.

It gets all the rock jobs.

Thanks again.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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04-01-2003 21:48:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to Gary, 04-01-2003 10:23:41

That was the machine I saw, a very slick looking piece of equipment. Thanks for the site and for clearing the doubt I was having about myself!

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Gary Mckenzie

04-02-2003 06:08:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hello, Max. in reply to RB, 04-01-2003 21:48:18

That's the one! Thanks for the URL.

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