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Mudstuck - no oil in block

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Mike D.

07-21-2003 09:01:00




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Got my loader hung in the mud. It is nose down. I waited for it to dry out good. Now I got the tracks dug clear and the back is free of mud. I'm ready to get it out. The problem is that all the oil has run to the lower end on the block. The upper cylinder made an awful metal on metal noise when I attempted to crank it. The loader has been there for about 3 months. It is a Case 450. Any suggestions or tricks? It can walk right out on it's own if it weren't for the oil problem.

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Deas Plant.

07-22-2003 04:59:32




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 Re: Mudstuck - no oil in block in reply to Mike D., 07-21-2003 09:01:00  
Hi, MikeD. IF you are desperate, you can spray WD40 or upper cylinder lubricant into the air intake manifold as you are turning the motor before trying to start it. Remove the air intake pipe from the manifold and spray directly into the manifold. This will get lubricant to the cylinders a lot quicker than trying to start the motor.

Even better is to remove the injectors or spark plugs and spray directly into the cylinders. Spark plugs are seldom a problem but injectors can sometimes be a bit of a hassle to remove, replace and bleed.

If you think the cylinders are really dry, it is also worthwhile to keep lightly spraying the lubricant into the manifold until normal oil pressure registers on the guage. This step is easier to do with a diesel than a gas engine 'cos it doesn't have to go through a carburetor.

You may note that I said in the opening paragraph,
"IF you are desperate,". Even if you manage to get the toy out without starting it, it would probably be a good idea to do the above with the machine on level ground before trying to start it.

Best of luck.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Mike D.

07-22-2003 06:26:03




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 Re: Re: Mudstuck - no oil in block in reply to Deas Plant., 07-22-2003 04:59:32  
Thanks Deas, It is a diesel (188) and I like the idea of getting oil into the dry half of the engine. Not desperate enough to risk scoring the cylinders. I thought about jacking the thing up to level and then get it started. Then use the bucket to clam off the bridging under it. The soil is sandy loam and not stable enough to do that. HA! Toy you say? Never thought of it that way. Tool, yes, toy, well maybe. It sure has been handy on our farm. As soon as the property lines get cleared and the cross fencing gets through the woods I swear I'll sell it and maybe buy my boys a real toy, a boat maybe? LOL! Take care down there- Mike

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Robert Hensell

07-21-2003 19:34:31




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 Re: Mudstuck - no oil in block in reply to Mike D., 07-21-2003 09:01:00  
I would suggest that you get a wrecker or another dozer to pull you out. If you crank the engine with the oil pickup out of the oil in the crankcase, you are asking for an engine overhaul. Hiring a wrecker or dozer will be a lot cheaper.



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Mike D.

07-21-2003 19:47:59




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 Re: Re: Mudstuck - no oil in block in reply to Robert Hensell, 07-21-2003 19:34:31  
aw nuts- you are right about being cheaper than a rebuild. Guess I'm looking for a few snatch blocks and a good stout cable then. Thanks for the advice. Mike



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Marlowe- you out there?

07-21-2003 19:16:48




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 Re: Mudstuck - no oil in block in reply to Mike D., 07-21-2003 09:01:00  
Sure could use some advice on this. Mike



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