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JD 350 died

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Brian

09-15-2003 08:45:11




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Called about a local ad. Owner states that clutches were stuck last winter- kids were out trying to get it going, used shuttle trying to rock tracks. Anyway- engine was running fine "something" happened and the engine idled down & stopped. Haven't been able to start since- thinks that they broke something in the fuel pump. Does this sound right? What else could it be? He wants to sell where is as is. Thanks for any input. Brian

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jdemaris

09-16-2003 06:16:58




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 Re: JD 350 died in reply to Brian, 09-15-2003 08:45:11  
Does the engine still turn over? If not it sounds like they broke the torsional-isolator. That's a common problem in all the 350s up to the last 350Cs. When the 350D came out (and maybe a few late 350Cs) the design was changed. I've changed many of them. It that's the case, the engine won't turn over, or at least not very well. When I worked for a JD dealer, we had a few brand new crawlers do it. If this sounds like the problem to you, the engine has to be pulled out to fix it. There's a spring-loaded plate on the back of the flywheel that is, or was, attached to anchor posts on the flywheel by a set of spring; six I recall. These springs are supposed to absorb, or cushion the shock when the crawler is shifted back and forth from forward to reverse. All it takes is for one spring hook to break or open up and then the pieces get stuck . . . and the engine comes to a sudden halt. I usually doesn't not take a lot of parts to fix, but it has to be done right. If the springs are put on with the spring hooks facing the wrong direction, they will open up when under torque, rub, and break again. Use lots of Loctite. The 1010s and early 350s had a more reliable system. They used, basically, a spring-dampened clutch disk. If the springs broke, it would rattle and make noise, but it would not stop the machine from running. When John Deere changed to the separate spring and anchor set-up, we had lot of service calls. Then, with the 350D, Deere upgraded to a solid rubber dampener that seemed to work well. My 1960 1010 crawler still has its original clutch-disk dampener.

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gatractorman

09-16-2003 03:47:28




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 Re: JD 350 died in reply to Brian, 09-15-2003 08:45:11  
First thing to do is to be sure you have fuel flow from the tank thru the filters and to the injection pump, could be stopped up filters or they ran it out of fuel, then if you have fuel flow to the pump and still no start check to see that the electrical solenoid in the pump is working, usually you can feel and hear a faint click when someone turns the key on and off if that's working remove the return line fitting out of the top of the pump and try starting then, those fittings have a glass check ball in them that gets fouled up sometimes and wont let excess fuel out of the pump building head pressure in the pump and they wont run that way.

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Pete/ME

09-16-2003 03:46:16




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 Re: JD 350 died in reply to Brian, 09-15-2003 08:45:11  
Fuel? Open the bleeders on top of the filters and work the priming lever. If the pump is pooched I don't think the primer will work.



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