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Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9

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Gary in MOOzark

09-16-2003 07:09:14




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I just purchased my first dozer and I have to go pick it up. The seller (ebay) says it won't roll. (been sitting 30 yrs) He tried pulling it with another dozer but that didn't work. Anyone out there have any ideas to free up the brakes (or somehow disconnect them) on a TD9 so I can get it on a trailer? The engine and blade are not on the chassis. Thanks




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ken

09-16-2003 13:00:56




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 Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 07:09:14  
it could be the chains and pins that are bound up from sitting that long. try lifting on the chains with a bar and see if they move. dont think there is a easy way to free them up if thats your problem. good luck



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Gary in MOOzarks

09-16-2003 16:12:52




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 Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to ken, 09-16-2003 13:00:56  
Judging by what you guys in the know have said in response to my question in this forum and another, Would it be safe to say the most likely suspect would be frozen pins and bushings in the tracks? Any suggestions as to how to free them up?



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ken

09-16-2003 17:13:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 16:12:52  
lots of Power Blaster or Liguid Wrench, just keep soaking them and tapping them with a good size hammer or a bar. Dont expect to undo 30 years of "time" in an afternoon or a weekend. If you can get the weight off the tracks it makes it easier. Just keep spraying from all angles. Also check the archives for past post from others who have had similar problems. Might find some other receipies for soaking. Good luck

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Gary in MOOzarks

09-16-2003 18:08:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to ken, 09-16-2003 17:13:37  
Bless you all! I'm getting a fuzzy picture of the mess I am in. I will check all the past posts on the subject. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but I am going 500 miles to get this thing and try to load it to bring back home, so I'm looking for a quick fix. Would it be possible to drive out or torch one pin and bushing to remove the tracks? Might it then roll enough to get it on a trailer? I realize this is all speculation but Im sure someone has been in this same boat. Thanks again Gary

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ACPhil

09-20-2003 18:51:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 18:08:53  
I have an AC HD 4 track loader that wouldn't move. Pins and bushing are rusted form 20 years on non use. Had a fellow come to move it with a Landoll drop trail trailer. Used a 2 part line on the winch and pulled the machine right on the trailer. Used a Cat 955K track loader to pull it off. Most of the track press shops around me don't even want to try and press the pins out of the tracks to try to clean them up. They want to sell me new track chains. Haven't decided what to do yet, as its going to be an expensive game, and I not sure I want to play. Good Luck, Phil

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Gary in MOOzarks

09-28-2003 21:59:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH in reply to ACPhil, 09-20-2003 18:51:35  
Well I have it home and have started on the cleanup. I have had pretty good luck with a mixture of Magic Mystery Oil and diesel fuel in a spray bottle. Heat helps too. draws it in like sweating pipes. I put mine up on rail road ties to get it off the ground. No movement yet on the pins, but I just started



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kurt

09-16-2003 18:59:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH TD9 in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 18:08:53  
as i purchased a td9 in similar condition i would make a reccomendation. it could be that your steering clutches have pressed up against the side of the transmission case and that is not allowing your drive gears to turn. in fact it completely freezes up the transmission. i would advise taking the inspection plates off the underside of the transmission case directly below the steering clutches prior to torching anything. it might save you a lot of grief later. look up inside-you can see most of the steering clutch and braking mechanism from there. if it is in fact the steering clutches i know of no way easy to remedy that situation other than taking the clutches out. if you look in your service manual you will note there is a large spring inside generating a lot of force---be careful. we loaded my crawler on the trailer with a very large front end loader. we unloaded it with rollers. if a crane is not available or too expensive as it was for me -you may be able to load the tractor via the method of building the pyramids. 1.)jack the crawler up 2.) put heavy wood planks under the tracks on both sides. 3.) install heavy pipe rollers on a smooth surface that extend all the way across the crawler. 4.) get some heavy winching equipment or another dozer and very carefully pull the crawler up on the trailer being sure to replace the pipes ahead of each other at appropriate intervals. four to six pipes should work. be careful if you would like photos of the process feel free to email me.

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Gary in MOOzarks

09-16-2003 19:32:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a IH in reply to kurt, 09-16-2003 18:59:22  
Thanks I don't have a service manual yet. Boy do they go high on ebay! I would like to see the pictures. I couldn't get your email so if you could, send them to topsaddle@first-comm.net



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Brian

09-24-2003 22:35:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 19:32:11  
Gary get ahold of Steve at pdmechanical.com he has reprints of the manuals in stock Brian



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gm

09-16-2003 21:17:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Freeing up Brakes on a in reply to Gary in MOOzarks , 09-16-2003 19:32:11  
Well, hopefully you got a good deal on it. It looks like there was a rolling one that just went for $500. -Greg



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