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HD-5G Tinkering

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WayneB

10-07-2003 04:44:29




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Well, I've used this thing for about 50-70 hours, worked it grubbing stumps, clearing small trees and leveling and moving dirt. Neat machine.

This weekend, was backing up and a small green oak stump wedged itself between the engine bottom armor cover and the rear drive armor cover, right up into the right side bell, jamming my clutch. Could not stop or shift to neutral, the reverse linkage bound up. Killed it by de-throttle and brake.

Removed the floor decks, disconnected the reverse linkage, got neutral, and fired her back up. When I was down there I saw a small arc on my battery to starter cable, so I jerked that out, removed the rotten rubber exterior, split a 1/2" heater hose-taped-and reinstalled. Removed the 2d 6V batt cable to right side and fabricated a new ground cable. Soldered new ends on using copper pipe-flattening and drilling hole. Mounted Marine wing nut batt posts and acid felts.

Cleaned 10" of oil saturated dirt, twigs, leaves and junk out of the armor belly, washed her down and did my lube.

BTW- got the oak wedge out with a jig-saw, trimmer saw and pry bar.

Other than replacing a few missing bolts and nuts, and filters and oil, this thing has given me nothing but service. I have maybe $40 in hardware and filters/oils.

I'm having a blast tinkering with this toy.

I'm at 50-60% on track chain, and other than needing to re-weld grouser bar and replace about 10 damaged/bent grouser plates, I have a few more years of use.

Now for the question: Found a part number for new track chain for the HD-5G. 70646175 TRACK R G (this is sealed track rail) and part numbers for shoes, bolts, etc. 70055073 SHOE 148 7008497 1 HIGH NUT 148 70644667 SH BOLT. These are new Allis PN. Another fellow put a set of tracks off of an 850 Case on his HD-5G. They have the same rail size, weld on new sprocket, etc. BTW-I am in NC in sandy soil. My chain has spent most its life in clay and manure. I expect faster wear here.

QUESTION: When I do have to replace my track chain: rebush my chain (height good-perfect sprocket wear), or go with sealed track?

Wayne

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ED

10-08-2003 05:42:53




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 Re: HD-5G Tinkering in reply to WayneB, 10-07-2003 04:44:29  
I think you guys are confussing "sealed" &"lubed" A sealed or unsealed it won't make enough differenance in noise to amount to anything but and lubed track is much quitier. I sell a sealed track for HD5 the only aftermarket i know of also a Case 850 has a different pitch and i don't think it is worth changing to this as chains and rims and also good used spockets are around.. Most replacement tracks are sealed with some excavator tracks being unsealed. New tracks are reasonable for that machine if you want a price quote just email me.

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ED

10-08-2003 05:47:30




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 Re: Re: HD-5G Tinkering in reply to ED, 10-08-2003 05:42:53  
sorry misspelled email addy it is edc@crawlerheaven.com



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Kirk

10-07-2003 21:30:29




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 Re: HD-5G Tinkering in reply to WayneB, 10-07-2003 04:44:29  
Only real benefit of a sealed track is to reduce noise. In my humble opinion the cost difference between an unsealed track isn't worth it. Unless the bunnies, squirrels, deer and other woodland creatures are complaining about all that stump grubbing noise that your making. You also may want to look at turning your bushings before they wear out and double the life of your track and spare your self the expense of new pins and bushings prematurely.

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WayneB

10-08-2003 03:45:55




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 Re: Re: HD-5G Tinkering in reply to Kirk, 10-07-2003 21:30:29  
Thanks.

Turning pins and bushings is not an option for my HD5G, because I have sporatic bushing wear, not even. I have no idea what caused this, but the bad bushings are well beyond turning. Also, I have been told partial replacement would lead to more sporatic bushing wear.

Noise. First time I have ever heard this. Noise is not an issue.

I have already assumed the cost for sealed track is significantly higher. I found PN for new unsealed track chain too.

Wayne

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WayneB

10-09-2003 04:05:34




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 Re: Re: Re: HD-5G Tinkering in reply to WayneB, 10-08-2003 03:45:55  
Ed, Noise in the track is my least concern. My wear is not even, some bushings are tight with little wear, some visually sloppy. I dunno, maybe due to being operated in snow.

I still can adjust for good track tension, so I can run on for a while.

I have the original type sprockets, not the multipiece replacement type.

Sent you an email.

This is the type responses I desired. I appreciate the comments.

Neat machine.

WAYNE

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