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wes

11-15-2003 21:07:50




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I recently purchased an old scoopmobile loder to use around my sawmill,I pulled the engine and trans to replace some leaking seals. so far I have identified the reverser and gearbox but im not sure about the engine.someone who knew the previous owner said it may be a chrysler industrial,this engine may not be origional.It's a flathead 6 with the letters DCPD on the head and numbers on the left side of the block CWC3 H117 22 1400229 . Also I need help identifying the model of the machine,I'll try to describe it. It's funny looking, articulated,4 wheel drive with a flathead 6 engine,funk auto reverser,and warner T-9 transmission.It has flat steel bars linking the planitary hubs to the chassis and one boom with a single verticle lift cylinder.I'm not sure how to describe the size other than its not real big. Any help in this matter or additional information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Wes Midhurst Lumber & Sawmill N.J.

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Deas Plant.

11-16-2003 05:01:32




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 Re: scoopmobile ID in reply to wes, 11-15-2003 21:07:50  
Hi, Wes. The scoopmobles were a good loader, ON FLAT GROUND. It sounds as if you may have a scoopmobile LD3 or similar. They actually brought out quite a few different models over the time they were building them. Here are a couple of links where you may find the information you are looking for or at least some more clues on where to look. One link is right below in text that you can highlight, copy and paste and other is a clickable link at the bottom of the page. http://www.alliedsystems.com/Pdf/85-516.pdf Hope this helps. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Wes

11-16-2003 13:22:07




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 Re: Re: scoopmobile ID in reply to Deas Plant., 11-16-2003 05:01:32  
Deas Plant, Thanks for the info. I checked the Vanatta site those machines are quite a bit larger than mine. I didnt have much luck with the other site,I got to alliedsystems but couldnt get the rest. What is the problem with this machine on hills? I read some postings in the archives that stated the same thing,design flaw. Thanks again, Wes.



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Deas Plant.

11-18-2003 01:25:01




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 Re: Re: Re: scoopmobile ID in reply to Wes, 11-16-2003 13:22:07  
Hi, Wes. ALL the wheeled front end loaders I have had anything to do with -- except the Scoopmobile -- had some sort of a pivot arrangement on the rear axle to all oscillation to enable the machine to keep weight on all four wheels. This means that the front axle is solely responsible for keeping the machine 'shiny side up'. It also means that the weight of the rear axle is pretty minimal and it is not likely to base-over-apex the machine if it happens to be lifted clear of the ground during digging or lifting operations. The Scoopmobile has a pivot arrangement in the center as part of the articulation mechanism which allows the rear axle of the machine to be at a different angle from the front axle. The trouble with this set-up is that the WHOLE back half of the machine pivots, not just the axle. What this does is allow the whole back half of the machine to tilt one way or the other if the rear wheels are lifted clear of the ground. If the machine happens to on sloping ground when this happens, especially if the bucket is raised up high, this tilting of the whole rear end can be enough to topple the machine. Even on flat ground, I have seen an un-initiated operator thrown from the seat when the rear wheels were lifted clear of the ground and the rear end tilted. He was unhurt but more than a little surprised. I could see it happening but was too far away to be able to stop it. I have seen another Scoopmobile tip over - front end only - while carrying a concrete pipe suspended from the bucket across a slope. That got that operator's attention too. Don't get me wrong. I have a lot of respect for the Scoopmobile as a machine. I have operated 3 different models and all worked well with little trouble. It is just that one design detail that makes them unfit for work on slopes and a tad risky for any but light lifting work. Hope this helps. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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