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Hi, Brian - convert a grouser.

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Deas Plant.

11-21-2003 00:36:44




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Hi, Brian. A track loader on the standard low grouser, double or triple bar plates will NEVER have the traction of a 'dozer with single grouser plates in good condition. However, I have found that if you use double instead of triple bar plates and load the bucket up, you will get pretty close to it. Loaders, either track or 4 WD, rely on getting weight into the bucket as you dig to get the traction they need. When pulling - or ripping - with a loader, ESPECIALLY a rear-engined one, either track or 4 WD, about 2/3 to 3/4 of a bucket of dirt will make a substantial difference to the size/weight of the load you can move. I operate a Cat 953 track loader fitted with rippers and I almost NEVER rip, especially in rock, without 1/2 a bucket or better of dirt. The difference is like chalk and cheese. That 953 has an over-sized bucket (about 15% over) on it, an old Cat 950 4 WD loader bucket, that carries about 4 tons of dirt. Even at 3/4 full, that is a pretty fair increase in the weight of a 15 ton machine. It is similar to having a 'dozer blade fitted out front on a crawler tractor as opposed to simply having the weight of the blade and associated fittings added to the body of the tractor. A 'dozer-equipped crawler will outpull that same model of crawler bare by a good bit more than the weight of the blade. Likewise, a rear ripper equipped 'dozer will have a substantial advantage over a bare 'dozer of the same make/model. Hope this helps. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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11-21-2003 09:21:32




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 Re: Hi, Brian - convert a grouser. in reply to Deas Plant., 11-21-2003 00:36:44  
Thanks for the explanation. I will have fairly light work for this crawler & got good advice from folks on this board. I am going with the loader because of the flexibility it provides. Been worried about slipping around on the fairly smooth triple type grouser. Not as worried about tearing the ground up as I am about getting into something that I can't get out of because of traction.



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Deas Plant.

11-21-2003 11:50:17




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 Re: Re: Hi, Brian - convert a grouser. in reply to Brian, 11-21-2003 09:21:32  
Hi, Brian. That's another place where loaders have a distinct advantage over 'dozers. You can (sometimes) get yourself out of 'parking areas' by pushing or jacking with the bucket. You can't use a blade to push the tractor backwards. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant



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