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Case 580D Turbo Out of Control

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Ron

11-23-2003 08:38:35




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On my 580D case backhoe I ran it out of fuel, Refueled it and now it Revs up and down out of control.I have been told the Roosa Master pump seals have gone bad and it needs rebuilt,and I been told that I need to bleed the pump itself,by opening a screw on the pump while I crank it over,which screw was he talking about? Any other suggestions? Help ? and Thanks




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JCmarleau

11-25-2003 19:28:47




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 Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Ron, 11-23-2003 08:38:35  
Have a parts manual or used parts for your 580D turbo my e mail is jcmarleau@aol.com



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Steve Schmittgens

11-24-2003 14:47:41




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 Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Ron, 11-23-2003 08:38:35  
Ron, Give me a call @ (314) 966-6692. I worked for Case for 25 years & I have a few suggestions for you. Steve



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Jay

11-23-2003 17:42:14




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 Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Ron, 11-23-2003 08:38:35  
I worked in the fuel inj. industry for eight years, and it is true that if your flex ring went out, and the weight carrier pins sheared off that you would have a runaway condition as your governor weights arn't being driven as I'm assuming that you have a Stanadyne/Roosamaster inj. pump DB/DC series, many times on a bad flex ring you will notice lack of power due to a plugged return line or check valve, or the engine will start and slowly die due too extreme housing pressure inside your pump, as the pumping pistons in your rotor and the advance piston need a pressure differential to charge and work correctly, you should have noticed some of these symptoms before the pins shearing as a plastic ring broken up into particles and steel pins are sent into the return line of your pump/injectors, another problem that could have happend is a sticky metering valve, that controls all of the fuel delivery in the pump, I have seen that scenerio many time from bad fuel, water creating rust, or tanker hauling fuel/fertilizer causing problems, if it is that it's best to send it in, as I have done them on the units, but not for the novice on pumps, also if the unit ran fine until the fuel ran out, I would check all options for air, lift pump not working-if equiped, bad new fuel, air leak on the filters, ect. not saying things don't happen, but it is strange.

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george md

11-23-2003 09:46:38




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 Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Ron, 11-23-2003 08:38:35  
Ron, It is possible that air is the problem but not likely, usually if a engine with that fuel sys will start it will feed the air on thru. The fact that it is reving up and down is a symptom of governor drive ring failure and has gone past that and cut off the rivots that hold the weight retainer to the drive plate. If those two pieces get the rubish out from between them you will have no governor control and the sky is the limit for rpm . george

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Ron

11-24-2003 14:44:57




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 Re: Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to george md, 11-23-2003 09:46:38  
Thanks for the help, I guess a rebuilt pump is the answer



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RAB

11-23-2003 14:10:16




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 Re: Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to george md, 11-23-2003 09:46:38  
Or, when you say the sky is the limit, you probably mean 'daylight' through the engine!!! Beware and good luck. Regards,RAB



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Alvin n Ms.

11-24-2003 09:56:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to RAB, 11-23-2003 14:10:16  
Do you guys happen to know where I could get a AMBEC-HD90100A hyd rotary head for an American Bosch pump? Used on a M35A2, multifuel 6x6. Thanks alvinnms



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Joseph Turrisi

11-24-2003 17:48:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Alvin n Ms., 11-24-2003 09:56:17  
Do a search for Boyce Equipment they deal in military trucks and parts.



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Jay

11-24-2003 14:14:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Case 580D Turbo Out of Control in reply to Alvin n Ms., 11-24-2003 09:56:17  
Try Windy Hill auto parts, they used to have a few of those trucks, you might have to buy the whole pump but I'm sure it would be reasonable, ask for Dave, 320-354-2201



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