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Pushing trees with a trackloader

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Stan

12-05-2003 18:46:15




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I've started pushing trees with my new-to-me CAT 955L trackloader. The trees go right over, but then I have to push/drag them, and the smooth, toothless blade on the bucket doesn't provide much of a grip. So the tree will revolve around to the side, out of the grip, and out of the path of the machine. Biting down hard with the bucket edge just prolongs the process by either driving the tree into the mud, or revolving it around so that it is under the track, and then it is pulled loose. Changing the angle of the bite doesn't make much difference that I can tell. It takes a number of back-up, restarts to get a tree anywhere near the destination. This is all complicated by the need to keep some of the trees standing, where they become obstacles to progress. I haven't located any teeth for the bucket yet. It just has the smooth blade. I'd appreciate any and all suggestions on techniques to make this all easier and more efficient. As it stands, it takes 5 seconds to fell a tree and 5 minutes to push it around to the destination. The destination ain't that far it's just right-over-there.... Thanks for your advice! Stan In So. MO. USA

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Joel Harman

12-07-2003 20:09:16




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
Can you say "trackhoe with a thumb'?



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953 operator

12-07-2003 06:01:20




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
bucket teeth will not solve your problem once you get it on its side put the machine parallel to the trunk and bucket on the root ball you should be able to take it whereever you want. also be careful dropping the trees dead limbs in the tops can fall(we call them widow makers) the easiest way on a big tree 18" and up is to dig all the way around the base 2-3-4' down and then put the bucket up as high as possible and push it over be ready to back off as soon as it starts to go but dont let it "whiplash backwards on you" be damn carefull i drop all trees on my jobs it is the most dangerous part of clearing i personally would get teeth for your machine it will help shear roots when digging around trees and moist not wet but moist soil conditions make dropping them easier just my 2 cents

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Brian

12-06-2003 19:36:39




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
This is a great site for a novice like me- learn stuff all the time. Not from Missouri but close enough on my Iowa farm to hear the turkeys gobble in Clarke county across the border. =:)



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Bob

12-06-2003 17:33:20




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
Stan, I'm here in MO. too and most of what these guys have said is exactly right. Your biggest asset will be experience. I use a smooth bladed loader on my tractor and as you have said moving a tree is a problem but if you get 4-5 together you can get the bucket under them pretty much level to the ground and you won't have much of a problem. Keep the bucket low. I also have a JD track loader with teeth on the bucket and it isn't any easier with it. What influences working with these trees is soil conditions more than anything. The dryer the better. Good luck and be careful.....

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Chris Brown

12-06-2003 16:43:02




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
Your machine is big enough.Get several trees in a pile and push the whole pile ,that way it does'nt roll.A dozer has the same problem. Expierence will be the cure ..I too am in Missouri,Macon to be exact.



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Jon

12-07-2003 16:20:38




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 Re: Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Chris Brown, 12-06-2003 16:43:02  
Hi Stan I am from callao. I have a 4 in one bucket on an IH 125 loader. It works great for pushen trees



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Jon

12-07-2003 16:22:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Jon, 12-07-2003 16:20:38  
Sorry I dont know where I got stan at????? ?????



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JBL

12-06-2003 04:32:34




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
Oh no we have way to many Missourians in this thread. :) I too am from Missouri, Warsaw to be exact. Hey stan if the trees aren't to big and you have the room push 4 or 5 of them at one time. This will stop them from rolling around.



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Deas Plant.

12-05-2003 21:26:50




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
Hi, Stan. You don't say what size trees you are handling but tilting the bucket forward to about 30-45 degrees will help you keep track of that 'acrobatic' cutting edge and keep it in contact with your 'victim' tree. You are now having a lesson in just ONE reason why teeth and 4-in-1 buckets are so strongly recommended in so many posts on this forum. Hope this helps. You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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old

12-05-2003 18:58:57




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 Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to Stan, 12-05-2003 18:46:15  
If the bucket is big enough you should be able to sort of pick up the stump end if it and puch it where you want. I do this all the time with a Cat. 950 wheel loader and don't have much problems. By the way where in southen mo are you I'm also in Mo.



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stan

12-06-2003 18:51:39




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 Re: Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to old, 12-05-2003 18:58:57  
Wow, lots of MO'ans on this bb! I'm just outside of Lebanon, MO. Thanks for the inputs, I will try dragging a whole pile at a time. I can see that they would stick to each other somewhat better. This is a great forum, glad I found it. I am starting to clear out the 95 acres of woods that is part of this farm, and maybe net 60 or 70 acres of new pasture. There are some ravines that will keep their trees. The trees range up to 20" I guess, maybe more for a few. but most of them are smaller, and there's a lot of brush. I think this is at least a third-cut area. I might try to salvage some of the logs, but most will get burned. Thanks again for the inputs. Stan in So. MO

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old

12-06-2003 19:00:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Pushing trees with a trackloader in reply to stan, 12-06-2003 18:51:39  
I'mjust 25 miles north of you up at Camdenton. I have a guy working on the farm right now that I'm selling trees to, most where hurt/blown over on May 4 by the storms. Haven't got rich but its helped pay for restoreing a couple tractor I have. Send me an e-mail if you would like to know more about the tree thing, I know hes looking for places right now to cut at



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