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Mark

12-11-2003 15:25:39

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I have 8 tractors I work on but I am only a novice mechanic. I neighbor I don't know has a Michigan 175 sitting for some time and I am wondering about taking it on as a project. Is this a retarded idea? Can you please tell me about them - what motor, drivetrain etc. The biggest thing Ive got is a backhoe. Is a loader this size just too hard to work on for someone like me? Thanks for your thoughts.

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Mark Thanks All :)

12-14-2003 18:34:46

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Paul

12-12-2003 11:12:10

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Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Mark, 12-11-2003 15:25:39

back in "58 I was operating a 175A in New Mexico,when a soft shoulder underneath gave way. By the time I climed out to jump, it was to far over to jump the high side.{no roll over protection then} I jumped off the downhill side and out run it down the hill. Each step must of been about 40ft. apart. It rolled completly and landed on its wheels again. By the time I quit shaking and shook you know what out of my pants, the oil had drained back to the crankcase. Straightened the air filter cap, checked the water and oil and picked up the seat cushion that fell out and went back to work. It was a Michigan 175A built by Clark. GM Detroit engine and Clark power shift transmission.

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Heat Houser

12-12-2003 09:17:56

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Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Mark, 12-11-2003 15:25:39

Volvo bought out Clark-Michigan many years ago. My recollection is that the 175 had a Clark transmission and axles but I do suffer from brain fade at times. If you need info, go on line and look up the local Volvo dealer. Link Here in Iowa it is Spreitzer Inc. in Cedar Rapids

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george md

12-11-2003 17:19:47

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Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Mark, 12-11-2003 15:25:39

Mark, I have a 175 A , they weigh about 29,000 depending on which engine it has. There were 5 engine options 3 cummins , a detriot ,and a waukesha . It had bucket options from 2 1/4 to 5 1/4 yd . Mine has one of those noisey chain saw type engines and a 3 1/4 yd bucket. george

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Alvin n Ms.

12-11-2003 19:07:13

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Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to george md, 12-11-2003 17:19:47

I ran one at a dirt pit loading trucks, that has a Detroit engine. Its the meanest, most contrary machine that I have ever been on, an at 66 I just knew if I stayed there all day, I would die. alvinnms

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Sean

12-11-2003 20:07:25

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Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 19:07:13

LOL, My god what type of machine is this thing???

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george md

12-11-2003 22:30:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Sean, 12-11-2003 20:07:25

Sean, you'll see it when you get here george

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But....

12-12-2003 07:35:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to george md, 12-11-2003 22:30:25

You guys never told me if it is a good machine and whether or not I should go for it....don't worry, I won't hold you liable. I did like your posts though. Who makes the transmission and final drives? Mark

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Alvin n Ms.

12-12-2003 10:04:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to But...., 12-12-2003 07:35:22

Mark, they are very tough old machines. About as tough as you will find. Would some of you original operators please come out of hiding and admit the machine is tougher than you are. alvin

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Bill

12-14-2003 11:23:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-12-2003 10:04:09

It would be GREAT if some of the retired profesional operators would come on here & relate some stories from the old days. I have a retired friend in his 80's who got me started in how to properly operate a machine without breaking something major every time I got on it trying to work the machine without finesse... Obviously there's more to it than meets the eye... Back to the subject, this man started as an apprentice on a steam barge driving piles in riverbeds for bridges using steam. He then moved to hard ground & ran various excavating equiptment of the times. Finished his career as a crane operator. I started in my backyard with CleTracs....I met this man while seemingly always searching for CleTrac parts at the time.. This guy has a fancy for them in retirement & is....er..was/he's slowing down with age/ a source for CleTrac parts. He operated many in his day for a living. Anyone who has ever owned an OC 12 or even a "B" can tell ya operating one of them 8-12 hours a day was when men were men.... One of the more amazing stories he tells was operating an early CleTrac loader. I can't recall the model number but it was huge. Had a set of dual sprockets on each side to drive the tracks.. Cletracs as anyone who has had one knows are a bear to turn. This thing had a factory loader on it & its advantage was if you can believe it.... You drove straight into your load with your fill truck straight behind you. You got your bucket full & started backing to the truck. Without turning the tractor, the bucket CAME UP & OVER THE TRACTOR/OPERATOR & dumped into the truck behind you.... Minimal operator protection installed.... Think they would allow one of these on a job site today...IF they could find someone crazy enough to run it? Just one story from one old timer. I'm sure there are many more out there.... Come on guys lets hear'em!

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george md

12-14-2003 21:15:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Bill, 12-14-2003 11:23:27

That loader was called a Sargent overhead loader. Somewhere I think I have some sales literature on it. george

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Bob

12-14-2003 18:40:18

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Bill, 12-14-2003 11:23:27

I have a Cletrac with the double sprockets, Its a D model with a dozer, about 70 hp. I have seen Cat D4's with over the top loaders, they were popular with the mining people in the forties!

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Sean

12-12-2003 10:47:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Michigan 175 in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-12-2003 10:04:09

I found an example of someone who did get killed on one of these things.... http://www.msha.gov/FATALS/1995/FTL95M23.HTM

accident link-->>

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