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Case D450, Looking for advice...

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John Van Valken

12-19-2003 21:43:36




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I've been looking at a 1968 model Case D450 crawler/loader. It's got a Drott 4n1 bucket. 4 Cylinder Diesel and pedal steering. Overall it looks to be in decent shape for it's age. The Diesel started cold this afternoon (with a little shot of either) without much fuss and very little smoke. Engine seems to run fine. Hydraulics all seems to be in good working order. I did a little digging with it to make sure. The growser pads are pretty worn but the rear sprocket looks in fair shape (not sharp or excessivly worn down). It drives okay (won't win any races) but nothing seems to be sticking and the steering clutches responded well. Cosmetically it's kinda worn but it does not really worry me. The engine looks okay, not a lot of grease and goop and no obvious leaks. I plan to use this to clear about 8 acres of lightly forested trees. The area used to be a tobacco field and was allowed to grow into woods. I think the machine can handle the types of trees I want to push over although it does not seem to have much in the way of traction. I eventually want to do some digging and perhaps put in a small pond. I'm a little worried about the growser pads being so worn. The price is $8500. Seems pretty reasonable as these things go in this area. My first question therefore is: does this price sound reasonable to you? My second question is: how hard or expensive would it be to put in new growser pads at some time? Third question: Is this a pretty well thought of machine? Any complaints or inherent weaknesses? Fourth question: Will I be able to get parts and perhaps a good shop manual? My mechanical background is mostly with farm tractors, automobiles and light equipment. I think I can handle the maintainence and some repair/welding etc. Fifth question: there is no fifth question. Least not yet. Looking forward to y'alls opinions and suggestions. Thanks in advance, John in Raleigh, NC

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great machine-

12-20-2003 06:57:37




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 Re: Case D450, Looking for advice... in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 12-19-2003 21:43:36  
John, These are great machines. Keep the fuel tank clean. They often plug at the stem leading to the sediment bowl. We have had one on our place for the past 8 years or so. Not 4-n-1 though. Does it have a ROPS or brush guard/canopy? I would not go into the woods without one. Parts are readily available, except the glow plug element. Maintenence is easy. You will be happy with the machine. Not a big loader, but if you are patient you will do fine. We paid $5500 for ours and then put a ROPS on it that had been on a CAT skidder. One thing I have noticed over the years, the 450 is much more reliable than the Deeres. Do a search here on this site and compare. Mike D.

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ED

12-20-2003 05:08:13




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 Re: Case D450, Looking for advice... in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 12-19-2003 21:43:36  
John The price sounds to me a bit high but if your happy thats all that matters. They are a great machine and most parts easy to find I made be able to sell you grouser pads at a reasonable price and if you count your time for anything at all cheaper then welding grouser bar stock on don't forget if you weld grousers on you should do all three or at least two and thats alot of grouser and lots of time and those pads are not that expensive email if you need anything and i will sent you my link

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marlowe

12-20-2003 04:14:21




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 Re: Case D450, Looking for advice... in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 12-19-2003 21:43:36  
the case 450 is very good but DO NOT USE THE FOOT STEERING ALL THE TIME use the power steer in front of seat the foot stear is for close use only and is not made to be used all the time. the power steer is made to be use for steering under load



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gatractorman

12-20-2003 04:00:41




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 Re: Case D450, Looking for advice... in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 12-19-2003 21:43:36  
$8500 for a 35 year old loader would be a stretch for me, but from your description it sounds like it may be above average condition and may bring that much, if the rest of the U/C is in fair shape and only the pads needing attention I would recommend grouser bar stock and weld it on to the existing pads, I'm sure you know loaders use a flat pad anyway they dont have high cleats like a dozer, in my opinion Case makes good equipment dont know of any inherent problems, I'm pretty sure parts are still available but they probably wont be on the shelf.

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J Kirsch NY

12-20-2003 07:52:54




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 Re: Re: Case D450, Looking for advice... in reply to gatractorman, 12-20-2003 04:00:41  
John---I have owned a 450B dozer with a 6 way blade for 7 or 8 years and just love it. The steering can be tricky until you get used to it---in fact I thought I'd made a mistake right after buying it. Keep your feet off those steering brakes unless you want to make a really tight turn or you're using them to stop, otherwise you'll be wearing them out before their time. I know you'll like the machine once you've become accustomed to it. Good Luck. John in NY

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