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Taylor Lambert

12-23-2003 12:51:03




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I found a 310 Case that has new sprokets and idlers and rollers that was in a sawmil. It runds good but the thing hops as the rollers ar hitting the bushings. Its dry tracks d still has about 90 percent bushings in it. Would it hurt it to weld' build up th tracks and then cut the the birdge out of the track joint. Dad says in SOuth Carolina several years ago he tok his Case ands got the tracks built up on a track welder. I have a good bit of time and the dozer is pretty cheap. Ive run it when the undercarriage was newer for the owner but his health is not all that great and he priced it to me right.

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ED

12-24-2003 16:06:09




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 Re: Building up rails in reply to Taylor Lambert, 12-23-2003 12:51:03  
Gee thats alot of time and labor for a cheap track they are not expensive at all New they measure 3.08 If you would like a quote on them let me know also i would never cut a flange on new roller or take a link out shorten track its dumb also if you want other measurements just email me i'll send my link



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jim b

12-24-2003 08:56:12




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 Re: Building up rails in reply to Taylor Lambert, 12-23-2003 12:51:03  
HI,IF YOUR ONLY TROUBLE IS THE ROLLER FLANGE HITTING THE PIN BOSSES THEN AN EASY FIX IS TO TORCH OFF ABOUT ONE HALF INCH ALL THE WAY AROUND ROLLERS,VERY EASY TO DO VERY CHEAP WAY OF GETTING THE REST OF THE LIFE OUT OF UNDERCARRIAGE,AND YOU ONLY NEED TO LOOSEN TRACK AND JACK UP,NOT REMOVE THE TRACKS.



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Windancer

12-24-2003 01:53:42




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 Re: Building up rails in reply to Taylor Lambert, 12-23-2003 12:51:03  
Taylor: If you do get "the UC measuring chart and check out the pitch(internal wear) and measure the rollers up too" I would be interested in the same info as I have a Case 350 (here in Michigan) and need to know how much wear on my UC. And have a Christian Christmas. -Windancer.



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Bob/Ont

12-23-2003 14:09:49




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 Re: Building up rails in reply to Taylor Lambert, 12-23-2003 12:51:03  
Taylor, get the tracks off it and let them weld up the rails with 3 passes on the rail welding machine. The wire feed will not bridge the links much. Try to get the UC measuring chart and check out the pitch(internal wear) and measure the rollers up too, just to be sure the UC is as good as you think it is. If the sprockets are not sharp the pitch should be not too bad but make sure before you buy. Be sure to clean all the KUDSO off the roof so Santa doesn't slip Y Hear. Marry Christmas Bob

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Taylor Lambert

12-24-2003 07:23:47




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 Re: Re: Building up rails in reply to Bob/Ont, 12-23-2003 14:09:49  
Bob the owners business partner had the old tracks pinned and bushed and put the new idlers rollers and sprockets on and new pins an bushings. I cant find an undercarriage shop around here Berco at Memphis didnt want to fool with it. I may get my wire welder out but I think I can build it up more even with the stick lol. A local equipment machanic told that works on alot of old Drott tree cutters uses a peice of coper sheet or thin wall copper pipe at the joints to carry the arc over. But then thats on a Drott to lol. What happens is the weld wont stick to the copper but lets a steady arc pass.

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Bob/Ont

12-24-2003 08:41:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Building up rails in reply to Taylor Lambert, 12-24-2003 07:23:47  
That may be what you have to do Taylor it they don't want to do it for you. You should be able to lay the weld on faster with wire feed. I know that copper trick. A company I used to work for made metal buildings. They would fill big holes they cut in the frames by holding a piece of copper bar on one side and welding it full. You likely don't need to use the copper though but try it. The track welding machine just runs down the rails and the links bend okay after. If you have a hoist just pick up the track to make sure before you put it back on. If it bindes at any link put a block under it to open the link and clean it up with the grinder on the ends. I would also change the final drive oil and look for chunks of metal in it when I had the tracks off. Later Bob

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