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450 C John deere track roller lube

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Bob in ILLINOIS

03-18-2004 19:09:27




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My track rollers are either leaking or out of oil. I dont know how to get oil in these little holes so I put a grease serk in them and pump them full o grease. How are you really suppose to fill them- asked at napa and they had no idea either. A grease gun wont pump oil do they? thanks BoB in il




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jim/pa

03-19-2004 10:32:34




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 Re: 450 C John deere track roller lube in reply to Bob in ILLINOIS, 03-18-2004 19:09:27  
get a quart bottle of 80-90, remove plug,(make sure plug is on top) use the cone shaped top on the quart bottle to fill the roller. if it runs out the roller is shot. if the bearings are still tight and you want to stretch all the life out of it, use the grease fitting to pump it full, then reinstall the plug before using the machine. the grease fitting will surely get knocked off during use. jim

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JD dozer mike

03-19-2004 19:13:13




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 Re: Re: 450 C John deere track roller lube in reply to jim/pa, 03-19-2004 10:32:34  
here is an idea put a zerk in and pump it full of grese then take it back out and put the original plug back.

GAULL DURN it !!Why did they change the rollers to sealed non grese fitting type????



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Sean

03-19-2004 08:16:24




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 Re: 450 C John deere track roller lube in reply to Bob in ILLINOIS, 03-18-2004 19:09:27  
I have a 60's International crawler (TD9B) and the rollers on it are lubed with 90W gear oil. The way you are supposed to lubricate them is to remove the pipe plug and insert a needle injector that must be about 6 inches long or so (to get to the center of the roller). You are not supposed to simply pump oil directly into the plug opening, it should be injected into the center of the roller using the needle.

Since I didn't have one of those needle injectors, I built one out of small diameter copper capillary tubing used for oil pressure gages (available at NAPA). After rigging it up with various brass adapters I connected it to a piece of plastic tubing and then to an ordinary hand oil pump can. It's a bit of a contraption but it works ok.

If the seals on your rollers are starting to go (i.e. the oil is leaking out after you fill the rollers), they have a special roller lube which apparently is a 50/50 mixture of 90W oil and grease. I haven't used it personally, but I've heard about it. It's a thicky syrupy substance that provides good lubrication, and is less likely to seep past the old seals. You could probably mix up your own batch if you can't find it, but I doubt the hand pump described above would deliver enough pressure to get it through a needle injector.

The zerk fittings sound ok, I've talked with some guys who do this with good success. But after looking at my crawler I would think they would get sheared off in a hurry without some kind of steel cover over them.

Good luck...

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T!Roy

03-18-2004 23:17:38




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 Re: 450 C John deere track roller lube in reply to Bob in ILLINOIS, 03-18-2004 19:09:27  
These are lifetime sealed rollers, not sure life of seal or life of roller. You tip machine upside-down rotate rollers so holes are up then take an eyedropper.HaHa Seals will contract and expand with weather and use. If alot of oil is running down side of roller you'll need to replace the seal or bushing or shaft or end caps or whole roller. Oil level of rollers usually not checked until roller needs servicing.

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JD dozer mike

03-18-2004 19:44:10




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 Re: 450 C John deere track roller lube in reply to Bob in ILLINOIS, 03-18-2004 19:09:27  
sounds like your seals and bushings are shot.
they are sealed no grease kind , right,?
they come shipped with 30 wt NON DETERGENT motor oil.i suppose you could keep greasing them the way you just did but ill bet the zerks will break off from rocks,



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