TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

Can you tow a skid steer?

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

Wayne Mo

03-18-2004 21:05:13

Report to Moderator

Can you tow a NH Ls-150 skid steer that has a hydrostatic transmission? What in the world do you do if it breaks down in the field if you cannot tow it in for repairs? The owners manual says you cannot tow it to start it but does not mention anything about towing it in for repairs. Surely there is a way to get it out of the woods if it breaks down!

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jack

03-22-2004 16:52:55

Report to Moderator

Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-18-2004 21:05:13

As far as I know the LS-150 is the same as the LS-190. To remove the chains you must remove the axle assemblies. Take the tire and rim off. Then remove the eight nuts (seven-eighths inch nuts) that hold the axle assymbly to the body of the skidsteer. Pull this whole assembly out and the final drive sprocket will fall off the end of the axle inside the chain case. There's an O ring that seals the axle housing to the skid steer body. Remove the access panel and roll the final drive sprocket back until you can remove the chain. Then remove the final drive sprocket. Do each axle assembly the same way. All these things are heavy but can be handled by one person.

I'd try to get everything back in the same place when I put it back together. In other words I'd use some wire tied tags to label all the parts as to right, left, front, rear, etc.

When you go back together with it don't forget that O ring. I stick it in place with some grease. Also, you'll need to tighten the chains by sliding the axle assemblys forward in the front and to the rear in the back. That's why the slots are in the axle assembly bolt holes. I'd be glad to get more detailed if you ask specific questions. I've got a service manual.

Jack

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Mike

03-19-2004 14:44:30

Report to Moderator

Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-18-2004 21:05:13

You can not tow one. Pull or push it up on a trailer,get a rollback.If you try to tow it add another couple thousand dollars to the repair bill.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Chip

03-19-2004 10:39:52

Report to Moderator

Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-18-2004 21:05:13

Some had 'tow valves'.Not sure about 150. Lets oil bypass,instead of locking up.Can run into this on lots of stuff-hydro's,hystat,powershift,some had tow-freewheel provisions some not(drive disconnect,valve,control or shifter in a certain spot).Check manual again or service manual.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Roger

03-19-2004 09:21:17

Report to Moderator

Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-18-2004 21:05:13

You will ruin the hydro drive motors in a short time 300 feet or less and especially if towed fast. Disconnect drive motors or better yet get it on a trailer and tow them out.

Roger

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

don

03-19-2004 16:01:37

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Roger, 03-19-2004 09:21:17

I would guess since it is a New Holland the pump is a Sperry, don't know that for sure with all the corporate takeovers because Sperry used to be a division of New Holland. With a Hydro system the Hydro motor becomes the pump when towed or forced movement and the ratio is much greater from the motor to the pump plus with dead stick your control valves are all closed, remember these are PDI units (Positive Displacement Pumps)and they can develop tremendous pressures 8000 to 15000 psi or more! My advice is contact Sperry on their website or a simple fix is get a rollback truck and find some used engine oil and pour down a path to its final resting place on the truck and allow the wheels to slide an icy surface is good. I agree with the one comment to see if there is a relief valve somewhere by the pump to lock down for bypass. Caution most skid loaders have ballasted tires so if nothing else you could break an axle. Good luck

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Wayne Mo

03-19-2004 20:47:25

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to don, 03-19-2004 16:01:37

Thanks for the info. I can't believe I am the only one who thinks this is a big problem and the manufacturers have not presented a solution! Another thing that confuses me is that the manual refers to a "charge pressure" of 100psi in the hydrostat system. What is that referring to? Is it a pressure that is always trapped in the system or is it a pressure present only during engine operation?

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Brokenwrench

03-20-2004 03:50:32

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-19-2004 20:47:25

Hydrostatic pumps can not draw oil for themselves in sufficient quantities so a charge pump is used. It is a seperate low pressure high volume pump that supplies oil for the hydrostat pumps. As far as towing a skid steer,it is not an issue,either fix it where it sits or haul it,never tow one.You can carefully and slowly tow one 15-20 ft. to get it on a trailer or a rollback,but thats about the limit,unless you pull the drive motors or loop the feed lines from one motor port to the other.But time you go through all of that you might as well fix whatever is wrong with it,or have it hauled.There is very little on the hydrostatic system that can be repaired by the average owner with the exception of hoses and linkages.Any drive pump and motor work should be done by a qualified hydrostic shop.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Wayne Mo

03-20-2004 21:44:02

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Brokenwrench, 03-20-2004 03:50:32

Thanks for the info. Could you just break the lines going into and out of the pumps or motors to tow it and let the oil just spill out the broken lines?

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jack

03-21-2004 18:23:18

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you tow a skid steer? in reply to Wayne Mo, 03-20-2004 21:44:02

Depending on how bad you need to tow this skidsteer? You could remove the chains and it would disconnect the axles from the hydraulic system. With the chains off the skidsteer would be free wheeling with no brakes.

I've got an LS-190 and removing the chains would invlove removing all four wheel and axle assymblies, plus removing the access panel on either side between the wheels. It'd take an hour or two. But if you just gotta tow the thing? It's worth it.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Wayne Mo

03-21-2004 21:42:56

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can you tow a skid ste in reply to Jack, 03-21-2004 18:23:18

Thanks for the idea of removing the chains, I really never thought of that and it is not too crazy an idea! How do you remove the hubs anyway, does the sprocket have to be removed before you can withdraw the hub? Can you do it all through the access panel? Will the hub slide over enough to slip off the chain without removing the master link? I will have to be doing this I believe!

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy