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Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!!

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Marc

03-21-2004 22:16:00




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I just completed all the maintenance items on my TD-9, ... with the exception of adjusting the tracks. Figured it should be okay, took it out to do some work and threw a track. The track came off the front right idler, in towards the tractor, and severed the main hydraulic line. I'm still pretty new to tractors and would appreciate any advice you may have. I am not too worried about the hydraulic line, just wondering how to get the track back on.

I am thinking the fix will be to jack up the front right corner, adjust the idler in (as if I was adding slack to the track) and try to slip the track back over the idler. Hopefully that approach will work. If not, I'd jack up the whole side and try again. Hopefully I wont have to break the track apart. The track looks a little catawampus around the back sprocket. I am really wondering about how to jack this guy up. Can I stick a stump under the blade and lower the blade so as to raise the idler? Where should I place a jack to raise the front and/or rear of the machine? Any Advice? Thanks!!!

I'll post the results, I hope to get it back running this week ... Below are pictures ... Click the pictures to see a higher resolution image.

Of course it had to happen in an inaccessible spot



This is what it looked like from the drivers seat


Close Up

As I said the back is a bit catawampus (note the master link is directly under the sprocket)

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Marc

03-24-2004 22:46:29




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
We got the track back on, Yeah !

Used the blade and blocks of wood to raise the front and a jack on the rear. Couldn't get it high enough to run freely though. Turned the idler adjuster in about 5 turns (whew...that was a lot of work) as in loosening the track. Tried to get the track on with come-alongs and pry-bars, but she no play. Got the track aligned with the bottom rollers, let 'er down and motored in reverse to final fruition. The track came right around and into place.

Adjusted both tracks, they were out about an inch each. Continued (MX) track maintenance. Put her to the test and the tracks stayed on. They do make a racket sometimes, like they're gonna pop off, but the seem to stay on fine.

If my tracks were to roll off again, and I was fortunate to stop before it ruptured my hydraulics, I'd just go in reverse and turn to bring the front into the track (and cross my fingers and close my eyes). Hopefully it won't happen again, but if it does I'll be ready for it and have ice cream waiting

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Lee Bradley

03-24-2004 13:16:55




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
Start up the tractor and in reverse, release the right steering clutch and apply the right brake and backup so the tractor spins on the right track until the tractor is headed straight up the hill. Then stop and release the right brake, keep the right clutch released, and very slowly back down the hill with power to the left track only. The right track will walk back on.



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Charlie

03-23-2004 17:40:01




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
That's always a crappy situation, and it's likely to happen just as it's getting dark or starting to rain and you're rushing to get something done. Or you're wife is pissed that you're running late.

Anyway, a couple more suggestions to add to those already posted by others.

First, be really, really careful, especially on the downhill side of the machine or if you're jacking it up. 2.I would put in a temporary hydraulic hose so that you have the hydraulics availble to help you. 3. My objective would be to first get the machine level. If you're clever, you can do this and almost everything else using the machine's hydraulics. For example, by alternately raising and lowering the blade and putting logs or 6x6's in the right places, you can use a seesaw effect to gradually raise the machine on the bad side. When the track is off the ground, it already starts to look a lot more promising. 4. To pull the track around and line it up, you can hook chains on it and pull it by moving the blade. If you have two ways to move the blade (e.g., up and angle), you can use each on one chain (one on the top and one on the bottom), a little at a time, then readjusting the chain location. 5. When you're real close to popping it on the idler, you can use the engine power, braking the track on the other side and moving the one in the air a little at a time, and it will go right on nicely. It all involves being clever in positioning the chains and in being patient about readjusting their position after every slight movement. But I still find this faster (and safer) than trying to muscle it all into place. Save those pictures as a reminder to listen more carefuly for a track that is getting ready to come off! :)

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Mike

03-22-2004 10:13:02




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
That's not inaccessable,you can drive to it with a pickup and tools. Inaccessable is a D5-c wide track,about 400 yards out in a swamp with the track completely off the outside,and a log jammed between the sprocket and the trans case.You may want to check the wear plates and your idler to see if there is too much slop in the front that will cause the track to run off. Also notice you have a roller leaking.

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Mike D.

03-22-2004 11:26:49




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 Re: Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Mike, 03-22-2004 10:13:02  
I'd be interested in hearing more of this D5 story.



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bcPA

03-22-2004 09:51:41




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
just before the track jumped off it had to get tighter and the edges of the pads were no longer in a straight line. If you keep a eye out for the above symptoms you can usually catch the problem before it jumps all the way off.With operating experience and the motivation of knowing how muck work it is to put track back on you should be able to operate even a poor quality undercarriage machine and not throw the track anywhere near as much as a novice. Good luck

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Marc

03-22-2004 10:28:08




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 Re: Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to bcPA, 03-22-2004 09:51:41  
Yah, I'll be a lot more careful in the future, ... now I know what to look for. I had never thrown a track before, so it never entered my mind as I was cruising along the hillside.

Seems the crawler really does not like going horizontal along a hill side. The blade sags to one side and occasionally makes contact with a track (ugh!). It's impossible to totally avoid, but I'll be a lot more careful and watch the front idlers like a hawk in the future.

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Mike D.

03-22-2004 04:28:18




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 Re: Now I've Done It ... Threw a Track!! in reply to Marc, 03-21-2004 22:16:00  
Yep, looks familiar. You'll need that slack in the track moved all the way forward. You may be able to back it up enough to do that. Next you'll want to compress your idler all the way. I'd jack the thing up. Use cribbing to work as a jack stand. 4x4' or 6x6's do fine. Once it is up you should be able to attach a come-along to the blade and track and winch the track forward. Then use a couple of large crowbars to ease it back onto the idler. Then pump the idler back out. Everybody that uses a crawler has OR WILL lose a track like this. It may happen to you again too!.
Good luck, and be safe.

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