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Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent Tube JD 350

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Wingnut

03-27-2004 17:56:56




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Fixed starter solenoid spent two days grading....
Now we have smoke coming from crankcase vent tube
Oil level is fine and still have oil pressure...Removed oil filter...Pump still pumpin
Is this a sign of Bad or Worn crank bearings..??Dozer has been sitting for 2 years with very little use prior to this...Thanks again

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Karen

03-29-2004 02:32:22




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 Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent Tube JD 350 in reply to Wingnut, 03-27-2004 17:56:56  
When you are ready to fix that motor I know where you can get the parts at a discount. May save you some money. Email me and I will send you the link



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jdemaris

03-27-2004 19:35:19




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 Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent Tube JD 350 in reply to Wingnut, 03-27-2004 17:56:56  
Could be any number of things, all of which would require pulling it apart to fix. As long as you have oil pressure when it's hot, and it runs okay, I'd use it till you can't stand it anymore. 350 diesels are prone to breaking top piston rings - but usually when that happens, they don't start very well - unless you're in real hot climate. Plus side is they're real easy to work on. Usually, if you have the parts, doing an inframe engine job takes a day (not counting doing the cylinder head). I just did a real "el cheapo" on my friends 350B. He had no tops rings left at all on any of his pistons. Still ran pretty good though, although the vent pipe pushed more smoke than the exhaust. He didn't want to check injectors, didn't want to touch the valves, injection pump, etc. So, I made him get the belly pan off (and back on), but I did the rest. Put in new mains and rod bearings, three sleeves, pistons, and rings. Whole deal took 5 hours. Not quite the way I'd normally do an engine, but . . . it was his money, and it's his crawler.

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Wingnut

03-30-2004 18:05:04




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 Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent Tube JD 3 in reply to jdemaris, 03-27-2004 19:35:19  
Thanks JDE...Did you buy the parts fron John Deere .?..What was cost of parts.....?

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jdemaris

03-30-2004 19:44:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent Tube in reply to Wingnut, 03-30-2004 18:05:04  
No, they weren't Deere parts. There's a guy near me that has the local Deere industrial parts contract, but he prefers to sell aftermarket. My friend went down and got the stuff - and in all honesty I don't remember positively what he paid. I thing the piston/sleeve kits were Tisco. I THINK they were $80 a hole. Certainly beats the cost of fixing my Allis HD4. $800 for four piston/sleeve assemblies, gaskets, and bearings.

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Wingnut

03-31-2004 05:43:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent T in reply to jdemaris, 03-30-2004 19:44:40  
Jde...If you have a contact number or name of parts guys ...Id be interested

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Wing



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Karen

03-31-2004 02:59:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Vent T in reply to jdemaris, 03-30-2004 19:44:40  
$80 per hole for a rebuild kit???? You know there are people on here that might believe that!! Any body with half a brain will know better though. My friend sells dozens and dozens of engine kits TISCO and from out companies and he said HE can't buy pistons and liners for that at his cost, let alone a rebuild kit with gaskets,bearings. He told me to get $10,000 worth of JD 350 kits at $80. per hole and he will see if he can raise more money

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RAB

03-31-2004 11:20:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Ve in reply to Karen, 03-31-2004 02:59:08  
Maybe he didn't say that. Read carefully, it could refer to the Tisco sleeve and piston, per pot, not to a complete kit with gaskets, bearings etc. Don't know, but I would ask first before tacitly suggesting he and some others on this site only have half a brain. By the way, who is your friend you are soliciting business for, on this site? Please remember this is a discussion forum, not a sales area. All your responses (I have seen) have indicated your response is for profit only.
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jdemaris

03-31-2004 05:57:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Smoke coming from Crankcase Ve in reply to Karen, 03-31-2004 02:59:08  
Gee wiz, don't have a stroke on my account. Take a pill or have a drink. As I said previously, I'm NOT sure what the guy paid and I'm NOT sure what brand the piston/liner kits were. There are people locally that sell Tisco, Howard, and one place gets piston/liner kits from Everstraight Inc. direct from Yung Kang, Tainan Hsien, Taiwan. Their piston catalog is posted at: Link No money came out of my wallet, and I didn't arrange ordering parts. I was doing a favor for a friend - a cheap friend at that - or if you wish - call him frugal and parsimonious. He would spend $100 in time to save $1 on a part. The guy he bought the parts from is also of that ilk. He is an aftermarket dealer, also has the local Deere industrial parts contract, and also buys out leftover inventories from other dealers. The parts could have been new-old-stock. I DO know they weren't OEM Deere. I have bought lots of kits in the $75 per cylinder price-range and less, but such purchases date back to the mid-80s. I just priced an engine kit of for my Ford 4000 industrial with a four-cylinder engine, and this site sells kits with pistons, sleeves, rings, gaskets, main and rod bearings for $299 or $226 without bearings. Exclude the gaskets, and that comes to less than $50 a hole. And yes, I realize my Ford is not a Deere.

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