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Dan Pearson

03-27-2004 19:28:22




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john deere 410 back hoe will not move and getting no oil to front pump split tractor and checked engine clutch split back farther and replaced charge pump still no oil to front pump still wont move could not find anything wrong with control valve thanks for any help.




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jdemaris

03-27-2004 19:37:20




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 Re: john deere 410 in reply to Dan Pearson, 03-27-2004 19:28:22  
I assume, considering all the work done already, you made sure pieces of your brake linings didn't clog up your charge-pump pickup screen?



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Dan

03-27-2004 19:41:44




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 Re: Re: john deere 410 in reply to jdemaris, 03-27-2004 19:37:20  
I can not find it please tell me where to look for it thanks



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jdemaris

03-27-2004 19:54:41




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 Re: Re: Re: john deere 410 in reply to Dan , 03-27-2004 19:41:44  
It's been a long time since I tore down a 410, but it's on somewhere the bottom of the transmission case. On one of the sides of the transmission, near the filter housings, there should be a plug - might have a square drive in it that a 1/2" rachet extension will fit into. You pull the plug, then reach in and pull the screen out - it's a long cylinder. Some machines (but I can't recall which) have a hose fitting stuck in - instead of the plug. Either way, pull it out. 410s along with a few ag. tractors were known for plugging screens when the brakes wore. With the full hydraulic power-brakes, the linings can be completely gone and they'll still work fine. That's why they can get worn bad to the point where I've seen a couple of transmission cases get ruined.

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Jonathan

03-27-2004 23:19:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: john deere 410 in reply to jdemaris, 03-27-2004 19:54:41  
The suction screen is located behind that short hose that runs between the hydraulic return filter and the transmission case. Remove that filter canister assembly (base and all) and then remove the short hose and the fitting on the transmission case. The screen will slide out of that hole. Another possibility is the transmission pump relief valve. If you remove the other filter ...the vertically mounted one that fits into the transmission,...you can see it up in the transmission case .To remove it, remove the plug in the right side of the transmission case..1 1/8 inch wrench size approx.Might take some prying from below, through that filter area, and pulling through the side port , to get it out. It comes out as an assembly...about 3/4 inch in diameter...several inches long...Its a simple spring and valve setup. Sometimes they get partially held open with debris and cause a problem...easily cleaned and reinstalled.

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