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Lloyd Ostendorf

04-05-2004 06:07:31




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I have a 310G with transmission problems. I recently went through the transmission and rebuilt it. The problem is with the needle bearings that surport the first and reverse gears up in the top of the transmission. Does any one have an idea why those needle bearing would go out so soon. I have less than 50 hours sense it was rebuilt, and how does oil reach these bearings. Also when I am pushing a load only one track looks like its working, does it have positive rearend or is one side surpose to slip.

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JIM BROWN

04-06-2004 19:12:48




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 Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Lloyd Ostendorf, 04-05-2004 06:07:31  
IF YOU WANT OR NEED A NEW REAREND WITH TRANSMISSION I HAVE THEN AT A GOOD PRICE JUST EMAIL ME OR CALL 614-402-0908 JIM



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jdemaris

04-06-2004 05:59:26




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 Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Lloyd Ostendorf, 04-05-2004 06:07:31  
From my experience, it is common for one track to stop. Lubrication is by splash-oiling. This is what I posted to someone else on the subject:

I've got several crawlers with the Clark planetary drive transaxles. Case used it, so did Terratrac, Cletrac, and Bombardier. I've got three good running crawlers, my neighbor has eight, and I've had many more apart. Under most conditions you will have power to both tracks - either both turning the same speed, or one subtantially slower than the other, but not under ALL conditions. You CAN make one track totally stop while the other is driving. If desired, I've got the Clark mechanical drawings here, and also a differential sitting on my desk, all apart for anyone who cares to scrutinize.
It's quite possible your differential is falling apart; they do that. The tie bolts and dowels that hold the unit together tend to come loose and/or break - it's a common problem. Pull the back trans. cover off and inspect. In regard to oil, EP (extreme pressure additives) tend to clog the brake bands, especially phosphorus and sulfur. That's why Clark calls for GL1 or SAE non-detergent motor oil to be used. Case might of added their own specs. Most call for SAE 30 weight up to SAE or GL1 140 oil depending on the ambient temperature

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jim/pa

04-05-2004 07:36:46




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 Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Lloyd Ostendorf, 04-05-2004 06:07:31  
hi lloyd, we're in the same boat. when you did the rebuild, did you replace the shaft that the reverse gear rides on? mine was badly pitted so i rebuilt it. since its a burrless bearing, shaft condition is really important. those bearings are splash lubricated by the third gear, it slings oil up into the trough in front of the shaft, and it runs thru a hole, into the shaft. the rear has a differential, so one track will slip. just apply some brake to the side that slips, and away you go.
jim

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Lloyd

04-05-2004 11:57:55




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 Re: Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to jim/pa, 04-05-2004 07:36:46  
Thanks for the reply, I will open the transmission soon and take a look at that shaft to see if that's my problem. What do you think about Minerial Oil GL-1 compaired to 90 weight for the transmission and turning.



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Lloyd

09-20-2004 11:30:56




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 Re: Re: Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Lloyd, 04-05-2004 11:57:55  
I findly got time to open the transmission and looks as if you were right. The shaft on the reverse idler was wore bad. I am in the prosess of finding one and fixing it. Thanks again.



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Karen

04-05-2004 14:33:32




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 Re: Re: Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Lloyd, 04-05-2004 11:57:55  
You must use GL-1. Anything else will effect the brakes sooner or later. In a short period of time I have seen where they could hardly turn they where glazed so much from the wrong oil !



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jim/pa

04-05-2004 14:43:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 310G Case Crawler in reply to Karen, 04-05-2004 14:33:32  
not saying im correct, but im using 80-90, gl-5, since the rebuild, gl-1 was too noisy. so far no problems.



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