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jdemaris
05-03-2004 18:31:29
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Re: Re: Re: button-head oil gun-HD3 in reply to Dale, 05-03-2004 13:47:18
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There are better, and easier solutions. Conventional cartridge-type grease gun and Corn Head Grease is all you need, and will outperform gear oil in this application. And it DOES flow, yet resists leaks. I was on the phone last week with the Allis Chalmers Industrial dealer who I get some of my parts from, and he told me all the roller seals are available for my H3 and HD4 as long as I still have the OEM rollers. In fact, he said he has all the roller parts except for the shells. I believe AGCO is making them. For complete roller replacement, there are new OEM types available that are of a new design and use roller bearings and no grease fittings at all - and they cost a lot. Berco also has replacements but are phasing them out. As far as the oil story goes, I don't buy it. I worked for a Deere dealer for a long time, and we stopped putting gear oil in the rollers back in the late 60s. Had too much trouble with it leaking out once there was a little wear. Most rollers I saw fail did so because all the oil leaked out. Deere used to sell "Track and Roller" grease that was especially formulated for track rollers and idlers. All you needed was a conventional catridge-type grease gun and your choice of standard zerk or buttonheads. They both work fine, but the zerks get damaged more easily. Sometime during the mid-80s Deere went to sealed non-greasable rollers for all their undercarriage and discontinued marketing a grease just for rollers. What they DO have, and will outperform gear oil for lubricating the old style rollers, is corn-head grease - which comes in cartridges. I suspect it's the same product as the Track and Roller stuff, just relabeled. It is designed to liquify when movement starts, and gel when sitting - thus to prevent leakage. I've been using it for years in my Cletracs, John Deere 1010 and 350, and Allis Chalmers H-3 and HD-4. About the 1959 Deere 1010 you mentioned. I didn't think they were available to the public until 1960.
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