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Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry clutc

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denjoe

05-16-2004 17:27:56




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I have found a mid 40's cat d6 for $1000. Pony motor runs and engine cranks. (didn't run it long enough to actually start it. It's been sitting for 4 yrs.). But for $1000 bucks and the fact it's 2 mi. from my farm it's gotta be worth it. Owner bought it new, passed away 4 yrs. ago and his widow swears no one took better care of of his dozer. Anyway here's my question: I keep seeing stuff on here and other sites saying avoid the models with dry clutch. One said "it's no good for clearing land" What does that mean?? It's a powerful dozer for God's sake!
Help! I'm about to buy this thing, clean it up, hopefully the tracks will move (though the undercarriage looks excellent) since it has been sitting out for 4 yrs. But the dry clutch thing has me worried. Any answers will help. Thanks! denjoe

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Mike England

05-11-2006 07:35:03




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
LOL!! Have you ever heard of a bulldozer with Hemoroids? Cat calls them Hypods but old catskinners called em hemeroids cause they are a pain in the butt.

There is nothing wrong with a dry clutch; chevy pickup trucks still have dry clutches and so do cars with stickshifts. The odd thing about the D69U (and other Cat dozers this vintage) is the way the machine manages vibration and power transfer. There are these five "fingers" (for lack of a better word) which are attached to the crankshaft and five other 'fingers' which lead to the clutch assembly and these pairs of fingers are in turn attached by a figure-8 shaped piece of rubber called a hypod. There is no way short of removing the entire clutch assembly to slide the clutch fingers back to replace the figure-8 shaped hypods (These are called hemoroids). You just have to stretch and bend this (VERY inflexible) 'hypod'. It is a fun job but can be frustrating.

The bottom line is, if you are mechanically inclined and up for a challenge you might love this machine. If it has a blade with hydraulic rams (up AND down-force) it can clear land very well. I think the warning you may have heard about using this type bulldozer (the correct term is tractor, full-tracked) is if it is a cable lift stay away. I think this is sound advice. If what you need to do involves 'clearing and grubbing' or what we used to call land-clearing or conversion, and the blade is raised by a cable that goes overhead, stay away from it. If you have more questions, I have a little more experience to share on this particular type machine. - Mike England
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Billy NY

05-17-2004 10:35:24




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
The D6-9U was another model by Cat that lived up to Cat's reputation, whether a dry clutch or a later oil type. I think that if kept in adjustment and properly operated (meaning you're not riding the clutch or running it with your hand on the lever with it not snapped over center partially engaged all the time) it should last you. Get the servicemans reference book, and parts manual for it, so you can read up on the operation and maintenance. I think ( don't quote me ) that when running and the tractor is stationary for a length of time, your main clutch should be left engaged and your transmission + forward reverse levers in neutral. Have to check the book on it, when running the pony to start you want it disengaged and all levers in neutral.

I had a dry one (still not sure what happened) on my D7 overheat & go up in smoke last Aug. This one is a true low hour machine, the linings looked thick prior to, clutch brake needed adjustment, and there seemed to be some noticable vibration when running prior to it letting loose, which I'm inclined to believe was due to age, got the upper bellhousing ready to hoist out and to be honest, even though I've never done one of these, I'm sure I'll get it done, I took the exploded view diagram from the book and magnified it on the copy machine to make it easier to read, it does not look too complicated,( I've got to finish it soon ) little time consuming, have heard of people taking them apart and re-assembling or adjusting them in a couple of hours, I would not worry too much about it, that 9U should serve you well if you read up on it and give it thorough maintenance, ( take good care of that pony, keep the oil changed in it and do not run it if the oil ever gets thinned by gasoline, change it out - few other pony tips that are good to know like it needs the main to spin for coolant to circulate through the pony so don't run it for too long without spinning the main, also draining the carb. bowl or letting it run out of gas by shutting the valve from the tank so the bowl is empty and cannot leak down into the crankcase etc. ) I have habit of warning people about pony motor care, did see one toss a rod once, so don't mind me, sounds like a great find I'd quickly hand her the money and give it the same care as the orig. owner did.

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Dale

05-17-2004 04:16:49




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
There is nothing wrong with a dry clutch, they just don't hold up like an oil clutch. I think as long as you take care of it, and run it like it's an old tractor, you will get a lot of use out of it. For $1000.00, I could put a clutch or two in it. If nothing else, do what you need to do with it and sell it (if it's as good a machine as it sounds, I would probably go a little higher on price). But I would not think twice about owning one with dry clutches. They will last a long time. Good luck!

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dirthog

05-17-2004 03:51:21




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
Dry clutch, wet clutch, for 1000 it's a steal.



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andy

05-16-2004 23:09:39




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
I looked for a dozer for several months. I ran into several dry clutches. The oil clutch just lasts longer was the message I got by speaking to many people. I guess it isn't even that hard to change a dry clutch. The oil clutch must be pretty hard to destroy. Land clearing probably requires alot of back and forth digging at tree roots. Some of the Cats can be converted to a oil clutch. I know D7-3T's can. I believe all D7-14A's were oil clutches. Sounds like a good buy especially since the guy bought it new and took good care of it.

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Bob

05-16-2004 21:32:50




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 Re: Found cheap Cat D69U with dry clutch. Is dry c in reply to denjoe, 05-16-2004 17:27:56  
Oil clutches are better but dry clutches still work and will last quite awhile if used properly. I think you will find you have made a very good deal! That machine will alot of farm work.



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