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JD 350c Landscaping - seen it.

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Anthony

05-22-2004 19:19:22




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I went to go see the 350c today.It is a C, with 6-way blade, hour meter said 4200 hrs,it was working, don't know if it is accurate.Looked good, ran real good. Seems like it had plenty of power. All new undercarriage. A couple of things that bother me that I have questions on. It is $14500 ( I think a tad high). Each time the machine was shut down, it sounded like a load knocking sound coming from the engine or trasmission. The gentlemen said it was normal for 350's, he said it had something to do with weights in their.He could not explain it real well. Any body know? Also, under the seat, their was a little bit of hydraulic oil on top of the housing,probably from the steering spools. We noticed after we shut it down, and it sat a few minutes, looking at the rear end, under the left hand housing on the ground, their was a little bit of oil. We think this rolled down from the top whre we saw it under the seat. Would aapreciate any thoughts.
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Mark in Ca

05-23-2004 07:15:07




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 Re: JD 350c Landscaping - seen it. in reply to Anthony, 05-22-2004 19:19:22  
Anthony,

My 350C makes the same noise when shutting down, been doing it for years. I've looked at several 350C's recently and have not really seen a decent one that I would the asking price. They were all running trators, but not up to my standards. I think about it this way; If I buy a dozer that has high hours, and seems to be pretty worn, been through a lot of owners and is $8000 then I could very eaisly rack up a repair over $8000 to get a nice relieable and tight tractor. I somewhat believe you get what you pay for, so with that being said, I prefer to buy a tractor with low hours, original owner, been serviced well, used with care, and reduce the chances of more repair bills. But this also brings a higher price tag. Granted anything can breakdown, nor am I saying a guy won't have problems if he buys a lower hour tractor. A dozer with 5000 hours could be in better shape than one with 2000 hours.

Since there are not a lot of 350C's for sale, it's hard to compare. I found a lead on a 350C for sale for $19,000, it's in very nice shape. I also looked at 2 350C's that I would consider "parts tractors" that were in the $10,000 range.

It will be hard to find a 20 year old dozer that does not drip a little oil. I did not know exactly what that noise was when shutting down, except that I've heard it on others. Thanks JDEmaris for the info. Good luck.

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Anthony

05-22-2004 20:20:52




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 Re: JD 350c Landscaping - seen it. in reply to Anthony, 05-22-2004 19:19:22  
Thanks JDEMARIS

I figured that about the leak. It is about a 25year old machine. I assumed it from the spools, it is the most likely place.

That being said about the knocking noise, and the torsional isolator assembly, would it make any sense to use the clutch occasionaly when using the reverser? And what you think about $14k+ for it.



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jdemaris

05-23-2004 07:47:06




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 Re: Re: JD 350c Landscaping - seen it. in reply to Anthony, 05-22-2004 20:20:52  
Before I say anything else, keep in mind where my perspective comes from. I worked for Deere dealers since 350s first came out. We had lots of rental machines that got severely abused. Also, we sold many small crawlers to loggers who didn't want to spend the extra bucks for a 450. Also, I live in an area that's full of shale and hardpan which does a number on small crawlers. So, most 350s I saw had problems, i.e. I rarely saw the good ones. I've worked on 350s that came from sandy soiled areas and they held up MUCH better. Now, that being said, we had many brand new 350s that seized up from bad isolators with less than 500 hours on them. It was, and is, a poor setup but I supect many problems were from poor assembly at the factory. I once had to go to New York City to fix two brand new 350Cs that were on the rooftop of a skycraper - both with seized isolators. They were craned up to the top in pieces and reassembled there - and used for snow removal. So, needless to say we couldn't bring them back to the dealership for repair. Had to do it there. Bad or good, a 350C with the spring loaded isolator will make noise/rattling upon shutdown.
As far as the price goes - I think $14,000 is high, but I'm cheap. I am well aware that a brand new machine can crap out just as well as an old one. So, I'd rather buy one that appears to be in moderately good shape and pay a fair but not high price for it. Paying top dollar for a babied machine does not guarantee trouble free use. I often come across 350Cs in reasonably good shape with 6-way blades in the $9,000 - $11,000 price range. I also see them with asking prices in the $14,000 range, but I'd never pay it. There are many state agencies that want small U.S. built crawlers and it seems no one makes them anymore. Deere has offered a "certified relife" program, where you turn in a 350C or 450C, give them $60,000 - $70,000 and they will update and refurbish your crawler, put a new serial number on it, and sell it back to you. If you turn in a 350C, it will get a bigger engine (179 c.i.), and also the new style isolator. So, I guess when compared to Deere's $60,000 - $14,000 seems cheap. As far as using the reverser in the 350C, it is designed so . . . you can run the machine at full throttle in second gear, and shift from forward to reverse without touching the clucth pedal. It should change directions smoothly (no jerking) but firmly. I have one, but choose to slow down and use the clutch - in an attempt to extend the life of the isolator. Since it consists of big springs, every time you change directions at high throttle, the springs are getting stretched and subsequently worn.

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jdemaris

05-22-2004 20:08:08




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 Re: JD 350c Landscaping - seen it. in reply to Anthony, 05-22-2004 19:19:22  
The noise is common for all the 350s up to the C model. It's from the torsional isolator assembly, and it's probably loose. They tend to fly apart and seize the motor (doesn't hurt the motor, just stops it from turning). Consists of a set of springs, anchors, etc. and is bolted to the flywheel. It's there to absorb shock when shifting the hydraulic reverser from forward to reverse at high throttle. It's not a good setup. 350D changed over to a more reliable system. Actually, the 1010s and first 350s also had a beter system. As far as the leaks, a machine can leak in lots of places. 350C, with hydraulically activated steering clutches is prone to leaking steering control spools. This usually happens when the linkage is out of adjustment and the spools travel to far into the valve body.

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GT

05-25-2004 13:35:40




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 Re: Re: JD 350c Landscaping - seen it. in reply to jdemaris, 05-22-2004 20:08:08  
A follow-up question if I may....

My reverser on a 350B loader (1974 - 4,000 hrs.)will do absolutely nothing if there is a lot of resistance. IE I shift from 2 to 3 with clutch in, release clutch, push reverser forward then nothing...other than the feeling of torque. If I go back to second and try again it works fine. This is true for any gear change or any time the reverser goes from nuetral to forward (or reverse) when there is measureable load resistance. Time to have the reverser rebuilt?? Thanks and thanks for letting me interupt...

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