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Dennis/Ohio

09-01-2004 00:50:13

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I asked: "what grease for backhoe pins"? Thanks for the replies. Did some searching: Castrol (www.castrolhdl.com) "contractor special" 3% moly.
Kendall (kendallmotoroil.com) 3% moly: "L-428 TOUGH TAC".
Pennzoil is "302 EP" 1% moly & 1% graphite.
Quaker State is "MOLY-GRAPHITE EP 2 1/2 grease" 1.5% moly & 1.5% graphite.
Quote from quakerstate.com: (FCI) "In very high temperature applications, the oil and soap content of the grease will burn off, leaving the moly and graphite as a dry lubricant".
Best, Dennis.....

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Leland

09-05-2004 14:19:08

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-01-2004 00:50:13

used grease made for wheel bearings on boat trailers water proof and stays put

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Shovelman

09-03-2004 17:49:47

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-01-2004 00:50:13

I"ve had pretty good luck with the Castrol Contractor"s Special. However, the best pin grease I had ever used was a D-A product called Duraplex. It was the stringiest stuff I had ever seen and wherever you put it, it stayed! If you got it on your hands, you had to really work to get it off. Unfortunately, they took it off the market due to it not being very environmentally friendly.

Texas Refinery Corp. or TRC made a red grease called #880 Crown and Chassis Lubricant. Even though it has no moly, we found it to stand up pretty well. It had an 80lb. Timken load test rating and it worked good in ball and roller bearings. It also seemed to tolerate water pretty well, and didn"t turn into a pink oozing mess like many other red greases.

I spend an extra few minutes when changing buckets and shim them up good and snug. It helps to keep the dirt out and the grease in.

Scott

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Dennis/Ohio

09-04-2004 04:15:46

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Shovelman, 09-03-2004 17:49:47

I like your snug shims idea. I put a large c-clamp across the bucket linkage to force the grease to the ends.
I went back and checked the Timken OK load on the greases I listed. The highest was Kendall L-428 at 70lb. Quaker State at 60lb. Castrol is 50lb. Pennzoil 40lb. Hmmmmm!

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Shovelman

09-08-2004 04:40:21

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-04-2004 04:15:46

Dennis,

I went to TRC"s web site to check out their roof coatings, and noticed they make an 880 Crown & Chassis with moly as well. Never used it, but it stands to reason that it would perform even better than the regular 880 for this application.

www.texasrefinery.com

Regards,
Scott Goff

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Dennis/Ohio

09-17-2004 14:55:43

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Shovelman, 09-08-2004 04:40:21

I checked out the TRC website. The 880 with moly is 5% moly, very impressive. They have a quote from CAT that the 5% moly reduces wear in pins/bushings. With all the "big-name companies" out there, sounds like TRC has the best.
Thanks, Dennis..... .

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Mike Devaney

08-04-2005 12:24:10

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-17-2004 14:55:43

Could someone give me the TRC website. TRC.com doesn't get it. The 880 with 5% sounds worth pursuing if its not out of sight.

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Dozerboss

09-01-2004 11:00:04

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-01-2004 00:50:13

I don't think the high temp situation for burn off of soap/oil would be encountered on backhoe pins. Otherwise all the cheaper soap type greases would fail and drip out as liquid.

Most likely high temps like that are encountered on wheel bearings on disc brake equipped vehicles with repeated stops and heavy loads or racing. The friction of the brakes creates the heat and conducts it to all the surrounding metal.

I use moly grease exclusively because it is a better lubricant, not that much more expensive and stays soft in low temps. The ads for it claim "Due to the molecular makeup of moly it is like having thousands of tiny roller bearing around your moving parts". Mine just says Moly as i recall so now I'm curious to see what it's blended with. Last one is in the gun. Valvoline makes a synthetic grease called SYN POWER, thats suppose to be rated for 400 degrees or there abouts. Don't know whats in it. Moly graphite is for disc brakes and rated for 275 degrees as i recall.

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Dennis/Ohio

09-02-2004 02:17:12

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dozerboss, 09-01-2004 11:00:04

Dozerboss,
I think most of the greases I listed are best for pins, bushings & extreme conditions. The pennzoil grease says: not for CV joints or disc brake wheel bearings. Quaker State says: not for lightly loaded high speed bearings such as electric motors. The others mostly talk about best for ball joints, king pins, hinges pins and bucket pins.
Thanks, Dennis.....

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Dozerboss

09-02-2004 08:13:31

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dennis/Ohio, 09-02-2004 02:17:12

Yes, absolutely. The moly is suppose to reduce wear. A High temp synthetic would be a special need application. A super high temp formula may not be best for wear. The disc brake type with moly graphite is what i have--Valvoline Brand. Thats whats available locally off the shelf with Moly in it. Good for -10 to 275 degrees. I think I'll look at the Castrol with 3% moly as a possible replacement.

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old operator

09-02-2004 10:44:08

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Re: More backhoe grease info. in reply to Dozerboss, 09-02-2004 08:13:31

most any good quality grease is ok the main thing is use it regulary keep it in there

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