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1976 100E Track Loader

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Big AL

10-16-2004 08:36:40




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I have a 76 100E Track Loader with a 4 in 1 bucket. My question is , Can I install a Backhoe on this machine?

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G.Lewis

10-18-2004 06:06:03




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 Re: 1976 100E Track Loader in reply to Big AL, 10-16-2004 08:36:40  
As stated, 100's and even 125 loaders could be fitted with bachhoes, usually the 3142. You removed the counter weight and installed the mounting ears using the same bolt holes. It as then necessary to add the auxillary hydraulics to the rear for the hoe. You also had to remove part of the rear screen on the ROPS. Most machines that came with backhoes also were fitted with 4/in/one buckets as the machine was real tail heavy. You had to remove the hoe to use the loader. I worked a couple of these in the 70's. The hoe had a swing pump and suffered with the same ills as Deere experienced, lack of swing power. These days parts are hard to find for these. The other problem with these old IH hoes were the top pivot bearing supports. IH had a removable pivot bearing held in place with two bolts. It looked like a large pillow block mounted vertically. If the bolts were allowed to get loose you were in for a surprise. I remember going out to find an operator sitting on a machine with the hoe in the trench attached by nothing but the hoses. When the top bolts broke, the hoe would pitch forward breaking off the bottom pivot plate. The bottom plate was 1 1/4" thick with a counter sunk hoe in it for the bottom pivot. I repaired the same backhoe twice in 3 years for the same problem. Dresser continued using these backhoes through the 80's I believe. You might find a dead rubbered tired machine, remove the hoe and then get the mounting from Dressta or whatever they are now called. Good luck.

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Seann

10-16-2004 21:06:36




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 Re: 1976 100E Track Loader in reply to Big AL, 10-16-2004 08:36:40  
Al, I've been looking into getting a backhoe for my IH150 loader too. A backhoe was an option for my machine too, I believe they came with Wain Roy types. Unfortunately finding the precise kind that fits your crawler may not be that easy (at least for my machine it isn't), so you may have to adapt another properly sized backhoe from another machine (crawler, backhoe tractor etc). You'll need to have brackets welded on the back of your machine and probably have to remove your counterweight. You'll also need quick disconnect hydraulic lines connected to your hydraulic system to feed the hoe (unless the hoe has a PTO version with a self contained pump and hyd system).

Also, be aware that the backhoe will make your machine tail heavy, making it a bit tricky going up hills. And they can put a big strain on the rear of the machine with their swinging around and the loads associated with digging. One guy was telling me about his TD9 with cracks in the rear frame because of a lot of use with a hoe.

Good luck

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JimInOz

10-16-2004 15:08:14




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 Re: 1976 100E Track Loader in reply to Big AL, 10-16-2004 08:36:40  
Brochure shows an IH 3142 hoe with quick detach ability fitted to the equivilent TD7E dozer.I'm sure the hoe would go on loader.The hoe was originally factory fitted on request.



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