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JD 350B running rough...?

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Brian

08-14-2001 06:04:34




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I am looking at purchasing a JD 350b and went over to look at it the other night. The owner tells me that the undercarriage is in fair-good shape. You do have to pull quite hard on the levers to get it to turn....is that normal?
My biggest concern is the engine is running rough. When he started it, she fired right up but there was allot of misfire and white smoke. After a minute or so the smoke went from fairly constant to puffs every third cycle or so. It never got any better than that. The engine seemed to have good power but never smooothed out. The owner says it is the injectors and they need to be rebuilt.....do you guys think that is the case? If so, who is a trusted rebuilder in the southeast. Also there was allot of blowby smoke coming from the vent tube. Is that normal too?
Thanks for all the great advice.

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JERALD

10-26-2002 09:12:28




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 Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Brian, 08-14-2001 06:04:34  
CHECK THE CHECK VALVE ON TOP OF FUEL INJECTOR FOR PROPER OPERATION. IF IT RUNS GOOD FOR A MINUTE OR SO THEN STARTS RUNNING ROUGH----THIS IS THE PROBLEM. IT IS LOCATED IN THE RETURN FUEL LINE.



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John de Marrais

08-15-2001 18:14:26




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 Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Brian, 08-14-2001 06:04:34  
A 350B should have power-steering, so besides an adjustment problem it might be out of
power-steering fluid. I’d make sure to test the steering clutches. Put the machine in 3rd
gear, let the foot clutch up but holding the steering-clutch levers back. While holding down
hard on the foot-brake, slowly release the steering-clutch levers. As you release them,
the engine should labor and finally stall (unless the brakes won’t hold). If the engine just
labors a little but does not stall, then the clutches are slipping.

As far as the engine goes, #1 the injectors aren’t worth rebuilding (it has the little “pencil
injectors"). They can be purchased new at a reasonable price. In that engine, a bad
injector is not going to cause white-smoke. It’s likely you have shattered top piston rings. The 3 cylinder uses conventional straight sided piston rings which have a tendency to
shatter, especially when ether is used for starting. The later 350C and on engines use
Keystone taper-cut rings, like the 450 series, and are much more durable. Head gasket
failures concerning the combustion chambers on this engine are rare. Another problem is
the Roosa-Master JDB fuel injection pump. When the little plastic governor
weight-retaining rings blows apart inside the pump, the engine will smoke, run unevenly,
etc. until it finally quits - sooner or later. On the side of the injection pump, facing out, is
a little metal door with two screws - maybe an inch wide. Take the door off, and if
everything looks clean all is probably okay. If you see little black bits of something that
resemble mouse turds, then your governor is blown apart. They all do it, and it’s a matter
of time rather then engine-hours. The plus side is the engine is easy to rebuild. I used to do them out in the woods in a
day (sleeves, pistons, and a exchange rebuilt head). Off course, that’s only if the crank
and bearings are okay. In regard to the undercarriage, check where the cast crossbar bolts to the side frames on
both sides. On a B it’s supposed to float, and it wears and cracks. On the early 350s it
was bolted tight instead of floating in dowels, and would break off. Another weak spot is
where the reverser housing bolts to the transmission case - if that is loose you are in for a
mess. There are four fasteners - two nuts on studs, and two bolts - and all should be so
tight that a normal human cannot get them loose without extraordinary means. Also,
check the ends of the steel side-frames where they attach to the clutch-housings. It
they’ve cracked, and have been rewelded, they probably are no good.

John de Marrais

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ferrell freeman

08-15-2001 10:06:50




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 Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Brian, 08-14-2001 06:04:34  
You, can check and see which cylinder or cylinders are miss firing ,by losing the injector line nut to injector and see if there is any change engine .This will tell which cylinder it is missing on or which injector might be bad. The white smoke on I,found to head gasket leak and also found that the piston rings have lost there tention or the liner sealer rings are not sealing.The steering clutches can probley be ajusted as all ready been talked about.

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Steve B

08-14-2001 19:28:57




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 Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Brian, 08-14-2001 06:04:34  
Brian,
With the steering being difficult, You want to make sure the brake bands are not contaminated with hydro fluid. When the seal on the pinion shaft leaks it allows fluid to enter the brake/clutch housing, if this is the case, the finals have to come off and the brake bands replaced as well as the clutch discs. It will cost around 6 to 800$ per side if you do the work yourself. John Deere will charge you 2G a side.
First thing to do is look under the seat and remove the acsess covers. Adjust up the brake band so it bites."It's the big fat bolt" turn it clockwise a turn or two. See if that works. Also make sure the clutch is releasing first. This is also done under the seat. If all this fails you can dump a couple of gallons of diesel in the housing and work the controls, then flush it out with mineral spirits. There is a drain plug on the bottom of the housing. If this worked then you know you will need to pull the finals. Hope this helped

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Sid Miller

08-14-2001 10:54:48




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 Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Brian, 08-14-2001 06:04:34  
Brian,If you are sure you can trust the owner about the condition of the undercarriage,great.If not,and you do not have the expertise to judge it yourself,then find someone who can do it for you.A bad undercarriag can cost more to fix than the tractor is worth.I find it out the hard way.



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Brian

08-14-2001 18:20:40




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 Re: Re: JD 350B running rough...? in reply to Sid Miller, 08-14-2001 10:54:48  
Thanks for the advice. The seller is a good friend of mine and I trust him. Especially because he will be repairing it if it breaks.



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