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Case Diesel 188 Blowby

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John Van Valken

11-14-2004 16:00:26




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Hello All,

The 188 Diesel on my 450 Case started smoking excessivly from the Valve Cover vent tube. It does not seem to do this when first started, but gets progressivly worse after warming up. Little or no smoke in the exhaust and excellent oil pressure at idle. Engine runs smoothly and makes good power. No apparent engine oil comsumption.

It first started doing this after being worked fairly hard for about 45 minutes the other week. I'm wondering if this is likely to be from condensation building up over the last few months. It has not been run much for a few months. The engine has only run perhaps 6-8 hours since an oil change so I don't suspect dirty oil causing a problem, but it may have a fair amount of condensation... Engine oil is not milky.

What do y'all think?

Thanks,
John
1968 Case 450

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mud

11-16-2004 12:41:23




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 Re: Case Diesel 188 Blowby in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 11-14-2004 16:00:26  
I have a case 450-- spit oil from the valve cover just like you said. is was not from condensation, but bad oil rings. machine ran for several more years just like that. no apparent loss of power but used a gallon of oil every 8 hours. it is our farm machine. operating temps. were fine, oil pressure was fine too. just spit oil out regular and had to be watched. you may have the same problem with yours. grit will kill those rings, and you could have grit entering post air filter-- check that elbow hose out of the breather.

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John Van Valkenburgh

11-17-2004 17:15:58




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 Re: Case Diesel 188 Blowby in reply to mud, 11-16-2004 12:41:23  
Thanks for the advice. I was a little worried in that the problem seemed to crop up fairly recently. I'm going to run it awile yet and see if it gets worse. Like yours, mine is basically a farm machine also. I will be using it over the next couple of years to eventually clear about 6 acres of smaller size trees for pasture.

I appreciate your help.
John



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mud

11-17-2004 19:05:59




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 Re: Case Diesel 188 Blowby in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 11-17-2004 17:15:58  
they are dandy little machines. mine was well worn when we brought it home. it sits idle right now, but when the time comes it will get back to clearing more land.

one thing i learned the hard way was keeping the fuel line clear. had a plug of sediment cause a fuel starved problem. took a while to find it.



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agri_con

11-16-2004 03:41:18




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 Re: Case Diesel 188 Blowby in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 11-14-2004 16:00:26  
Foremost I'd run the machine a bit,188's are noted for building condensation on the valve cover,let it sit over niht and see if the oil level goes up,which indicates water entering engine from either head gasket,sleeves or the area at the base of sleeves wher the sealling rings are.If your machine is really up there in hours,you might consider an engine job,have the valves adjusted,at least this will tell how much sludge you have in the valve cover,engine compression test,and raditor pressure test(all easy enough to perform to let ya know good or bad -good luck--

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John Van Valkenburgh

11-17-2004 17:26:31




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 Re: Case Diesel 188 Blowby in reply to agri_con, 11-16-2004 03:41:18  
Thanks for your response. As far as I can tell the oil level is fairly constant but it has not really had a whole lot of hours put on it since the oil change. I bought the machine used with a broken hour meter and so I really have no firm idea about the number of hours on the engine. Basically I went by good warm oil pressure, not much exhaust smoke, oil did not smell like Diesel, engine started and ran well etc.

I doubt my compression gauge will be of use on a Diesel. I'm going to run it awhile yet to see if it gets worse or if any other symptoms appear.

Not looking forward to an engine build but as these things go it does not look too difficult. I gather its a matter of pulling the head and oil pan to change out pistons/rings and cylinder sleeves (as needed). In other words it looks like I can rebuild it in the frame. The service manual shows a special sleeve puller but I suspect I can use something else or even make my own. Might be worth doing just for peace of mind. My biggest concern is that I'd run it too far and break a rod or something.

I've had the valve cover off to replace a leaking gasket. The usual sludge but not a large buildup.

Thanks for your help,
John

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