Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Bob up North

01-10-2005 18:13:54




Report to Moderator

I am looking at a Ford F250 pickup with the 7.3 liter diesel engine. Any one have experience with this truck, in a construction environment? What is the actual mileage the trucks gets, again in a construction environment with 3,000 pound load of fuel and tools.
What truck would you buy if you were in the maket for a truck?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Grant MD

01-11-2005 20:11:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
I have a 91 with the 7.3 long bed ext cab 4x4 96,000 miles. My truck is kind of like a train. It'll pull anything, but it wont get there too fast. I just had the glowplugs replaced, other than that no problems. I have ladder racks(the real kind-square steel, not aluminum) one full to the brim toolbox, and a backseat of tools, plus whatever is in the back, generator, compressor, etc. I get about 14 miles to the gallon. I get a little less when I pull our kubota tractor around (not sure how much that weighs, but not too much). I get a lot less when i pull our case skid loader around. That weighs about 6,000. It feels like i'm dragging an anchor with that. I am very happy with my truck. It is pretty reliable and does well in the mud, even with the trailer and tractor behind. With new glow plugs it always starts anytime any weather.


I would buy another ford with the 7.3. My dad has an 04 with the 6.0 35,000 miles and its alright. It is much faster than the 7.3 but we're not sure about the reliability yet. Having some minor fuel filter issues.

My coworker has a 00 250 with the 7.3, 85,000 and it runs great. Nothing other than oil, fuel filter, and tires have been changed.

Hope this helps.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
glenn pyzak

01-11-2005 10:47:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
CAUTION the 7.3 have a cavition issue,the cylinder walls are very thin and coolent somtimes eats through them.They are good trucks but you must add a coolent additive.For more info check this web site.www.dieselstop.com lots of good stuff.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mud

01-11-2005 10:01:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
we have owned a 2000 f-350 crewcab with 6 spd. for 15 months. work it at farm and const site.
gets 17.5 mpg most highway. have gotten 20 mpg with cruise control on flat ground at 60 mph. has 3.71 rear and srw and 4x4.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mitchp

01-11-2005 08:36:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
the ford 7.3L diesel is a good engine, i've had two, a 99 and now a 2002. Never had any problems at all, replaced a sensor that went bad but other than that its been great. i've used mine for farm use not construction, but they pull good and handle great. as far as mileage, i've always averaged 18 MPG, get a little less when pulling but 18 is great compared to the V10. If the truck has been taken care of, i think you'll be ok, take care of it, and ALWAYS keep the oil and fuel filter changed at regular intervals and the diesel engine should last you a long time. If you don't get this one, i would stay with the 7.3L in the ford, word of caution, stay away from the new 6.0L powerstroke, alot of people have had problems around here with them, including a relative who is a floor manager at a ford dealorship. He had a new 6.0L for a few months, after many trips to the shop, he went back to the 7.3L

hope this helps

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gus

01-11-2005 03:12:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
I have a 00 250 powerstroke auto, 4wd. Drag a 2500lb. tool trailer around and the bed has another 500 lbs. or so in it. Usually only 20-30 min. to the jobsites. I have never gotten better than 14mpg. Completely empty, 75 mph highway, I got 20mpg. I like the truck. Front end is real heavy. It would be useless in my construction environment without 4wd. I think it would be useless on slick roads anywhere. It developed an oil leak about 60,000 in turbo line. Ball joints and front knuckles went at 45,000. Other than that,no problems. Have to shut it off at the drive up windows. Gus

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

01-10-2005 20:28:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to Bob up North, 01-10-2005 18:13:54  
You're going to get a lot of differing replies. I've been driving diesel pickups since 82 and have five of them at present. I've also spent a lot of time attempting to find out what others were getting for mileage and reliability. Amazing how the stories differ. There's has been a lot of discussion on the subject of pre-Powerstoke Ford F250s at the Ford forum, you might want to read through some of it. At some point in time, during the 90s, the 7.3 IH engine was changed over to direct injection and became the Powerstoke. That being said, here's my take. I've got four Chevys and one Ford. My Ford is an 85 with very low miles on it - and very well taken care of. It has the 6.9, basically the same engine as the 7.3 indirect injection engine, just a little smaller. 4WD, ext. cab. 8' bed, 8600 GVRW and C6 three speed automatic trans and 3.55 axles. It is probably the best running and the best cold starting diesel truck I've ever had. I also drove one since it was new as a service vehicle at a John Deere dealer - fully loaded with equipment, tools, crane, etc. It was an F350 2WD. Both trucks got 11-13 mpg - highway or city driving. My F250 pickup get 13 with a camper on it across country which is not too bad. But . . . does about the same empty going down the highway which is NOT so great. My 91 3/4, 4WD Chevy with the 6.2 and automatic overdrive can get 21 MPG, my 1987 6.2 diesel 3/4 ton, 4WD Suburan can get 19 (and it has 470,000 miles on it), and my old 82 1/2 Chevy 4WD with the 6.2, four speed standard shift, and very high gearing has gotten 25 MPG with a wind at my back. Automotive diesels have a very narrow efficiency band. Once a certain RPM is exceeded, mileage drops like a rock. Thus the need for overdrive - but the problem has been that most automatic overdrives are not rugged enough for heavy use. Seems maybe GM has gotten over the problem with the Allison trans. My F250 runs around 2500 RPM at 60 MPH which is high. I suspect my mileage would be much better if I had a 5 speed stick. I been told, and have read many claims about Ford F250s with 6.9s or 7.3s, prepowerstoke, getting 25 - 28 mile per gallon. I simply don't believe it. The old guy I bought my Ford from claimed it got 35 MPG. I don't think he was lying, just didn't figure very well. The original owner I bought my Suburban from told me it averaged 30 MPG - another fantasy. I do think it's reasonable to assume that a well-geared F250 that can maintain an RPM below 2200 at highway speed and not working hard can probably achieve mileage in the 20 mpg range. My absolute best mileage with a truck-bodied vehicle is my 86 K5 4WD Blazer with the 6.2 and 4 speed automatic overdrive - I've gotten 25.5 with it on a flat highway and 16.5 pulling a camper trailer.
My wife's 91 Volkswagen Jetta diesel gets a consistent 52 mph on the highway, and 38 driving back roads up and down mountains and hills. I thinks that's amazing.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
GLewis

01-11-2005 06:01:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to jdemaris, 01-10-2005 20:28:35  
I guess I need to weigh in on this one. I have an old 91' Ford F250 4X4, 5 speed manual with 3:55 rear. I bought the truck used with a nearly new utility body and 100k miles on it. It now has about 219k on it. It doubles for work and pleasure. I pull the utility body off and replace it with a regular pickup body to haul my 10'truck camper around for vacations. The engine got a Bank's Turbo at 150k along with exhaust, extra engine oil cooler, dual filters, K & N air cleaner, etc. It is a waste gate affair with a max boost to 10psi so you can't burn the pistons out. What a difference it made. With the utility body on it will do 14mpg at 1900 to 2000 rpm/62-65 mph. Go any faster and the mileage will go down to 11 or 12. And trust me, it will run faster. With the empty pickup body, I checked it on a trip from Maryland to Albany NY at 19 mpg. With the camper on and all that wind resistence up there it averages around 12 mpg on the flat if you keep the speed down to 65. In my current business I use it to pull an old 9 ton three axle level deck trailer. Some months back I purchased an 1845C Case skid steer loader in Alabama. Hurricane Ivan was moving in on that area so I had to make a quick trip to get the machine or loose it. Drove 2,200 miles in 38 hours dragging the trailer to get the machine home. The truck averaged 11 to 12 mpg at 70 plus miles an hour. I am tagged for a 25,000lb. gross combination weight. At home I haul my 350B Deere dozer w/full cab/winch around to job sites with ease as well as loads of pilings, lumber, etc. The truck has been driven across 35 states picking up crane parts, equipment or just vacationing. Two years in a row we covered 5,500 miles in 15 days on trips to Yellowstone, Monument Valley, Grand Canyon, etc. The engine is original as well as injectors and pump. Only the usual bolt on stuff has been replaced such as water pump, power steering, alternator, etc. Drive train wise, it has had a transfer case, a couple of front universals and a complete brake job once since purchased. I have never owned a tougher more reliable truck. Tomorrow I am heading to Indiana with it to pick up an 8' X 22' 4 1/2 ton steel pushboat hull for my pile driving business. A friend of mine bought a new 1 1/2 ton Chevy with a 6.5 when I bought mine to pull a hydraulic boat trailer. It now only has 48,000 miles on it but it has had 4 injection pumps in it. It has a 512 rear in it but can't get out of it's own way on a hill. He has to get down in 3rd to pull up a local bridge with a 1 1/2 ton boat that I can run with my trailer and dozer in 4th direct, go figure. He finally bought a used Dodge with a Cummings to pull boats and retired the Chevy for service calls. In short I love the old 7.3 IDI and plan on running it for another 100k. My only complaint is the high first gear and the dual mass flywheel set up that jerks when taking off with a load. I am toying with putting a U.S. Gear underdrive box behind to trans to be able to pull off better when heavily loaded and to be able to split gears when pulling hills. Keeping up this old Ford beats $40,000 for a new one that I can't work on for all the electronic chips, etc. Additionally even the new ones don't come with all the extra springs, oversize fuel tanks, tires, custom seats, front winch, etc. that I now have in this one. In short I haven't heard many bad things about these old 6.9 and 7.3 Fords in F250 and F350 chassis.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

01-11-2005 06:37:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to GLewis, 01-11-2005 06:01:05  
Your truck sounds like it's in line with what should be expected. I have NEVER been a Ford fan - but - I wound up getting my Ford F250 diesel in a failed search for a reasonably priced General Motors diesel heavy pickup with an extended cab and 4WD. At least in this area, Fords don't have the resale value the GMs have - for whatever reasons. So, now I'm not as anti-Ford as I used to be. I bought my 1986 ext. cab, 4WD, rustfree, with 65,000 original miles on it for $2500. The F250 is built very heavy, and from all I can tell and have heard, very reliable. Parts are cheap also. My ONLY gripe with the engineering is Ford's use of vacuum-booster brakes in a truck this heavy. All my other diesels have hydro-boost which I like a lot better. As far as GM and the many injection pump failures they had. Ford's had them too, just happened a little later. This all occurred when diesels had to meed emission standards and went to microprocessor controlled injection systems. Those ubiquitous pumps that failed on 6.5 G.M.s usually had small electronic problems that cost a fortune to fix since it was done with complete pump replacment. Blame Stanadyne/RoosaMaster for that. Our military had the forsight to order all the Humvees with the older, mechanical systems. Microprocessor-controlled injection was not desired out in the battlefields. My neighbor just bought a new 6 litre Ford diesel dumptruck. It's been back to the dealer 6 times during the past year, all for injection system problems. From what I've read, Chevy changed over to the Powermax Japanese diesel because of emmissions - seemed Isuzu was better at figuring it out than Detroit Diesel was (Detroit designed the G.M. 6.2s).

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
stressfree

01-11-2005 03:17:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to jdemaris, 01-10-2005 20:28:35  
jd whats up with your 580?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

01-11-2005 05:35:53




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to stressfree, 01-11-2005 03:17:07  
It's just sitting in my shop, waiting to get put back together, sold, or scrapped.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mud

01-11-2005 10:02:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to jdemaris, 01-11-2005 05:35:53  
still for sale? as i remember you had a 207 and a 188 with it?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

01-11-2005 10:50:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to mud, 01-11-2005 10:02:01  
That is correct.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
mud

01-11-2005 12:29:19




Report to Moderator
 Re: buying F250 w / diesel good or bad truck in reply to jdemaris, 01-11-2005 10:50:45  
been some time since we spoke on this. as i remember the 188 is holed. that right?

is the 207 complete?

is the hoe complete?

mud



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy