Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

HD-3 Questions

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Tim Lockey

02-03-2005 16:08:52




Report to Moderator

I have a opportunity on a HD-3 found sitting in the woods. It's been sitting for about 20 years. The tractor is complete. It was loaded onto a truck/trailer and then abandoned. Can some one tell me what series tractor this machine was based on? The gastank looks like the ones used on a D-15. Which gas engine is this? Also, what is the approx. weight W/blade? What sort of problems are parts going to be? I am hoping for lots of oil/Grease to be inside the housings/engine but I don't know what Iwill find. The price is right. Move it, keep it! Any feedback from you guys would be much appreiciated.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
hector gemme

02-11-2005 02:59:27




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to Tim Lockey, 02-03-2005 16:08:52  
HI IHAVE SOME HD3 PARTS



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

02-03-2005 19:42:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to Tim Lockey, 02-03-2005 16:08:52  
I'm a little confused with your post. The "D" in HD stands for diesel, i.e. an HD3 is diesel powered, an H3 is gas. I wish I could find an HD3, H3, or HD4, or 650 series for parts - for MY HD4. They've all got the same undercarriage. The first HD3 that Allis built had a Detroit 2-71 and weighed 7000 lbs. It was only made briefly in 1942. The later HD3 series (1960-1968) was built on the D15 chasis. Has a 175 c.i. engine. Weighs around 7600 lbs. with no blade - you can probably add another 1500 - 2000 lbs. for a 6-way dozer setup. An H3 weighs around 7400 lbs. and, the early gas engines were 149 c.i., and the later 160 c.i. The HD4 that I have is a little heavier at 8800 lbs. bare. Also has a larger 200 cube engine.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
ACPhil

02-09-2005 19:52:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to jdemaris, 02-03-2005 19:42:18  
For jdemaris: I've got an HD 4 loader. Has rebuilt injector pump, injectors,starter, waterpump and new belts. Machine runs good. The machine is not in bad shape. The problem: from sitting, the pins and bushing in the tracks are rusted up and the tracks won't roll. I'd like to get $2200 for the machine. I'm in New Jersey. Thanks, ACPhil



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tim Lockey

02-04-2005 17:31:40




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to jdemaris, 02-03-2005 19:42:18  
Sorry for the confusion in my original post. The dozer is an H3. Thanks for the info thus far.So, engine parts will be the same as a D-15, depending on early/late series? Trans. clutch will be same?or maybe not? Iguess I"m wondering how many farm tractor parts are going to fit this machine . Any ideas on undercarriage parts availability, new or used? If this machine can be fixed, it will be used for light grading, cutting swales,spreading marl(eastern NC version of crush-n-run stone)Is this enough tractor?

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dale(MO)

02-05-2005 09:57:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to Tim Lockey, 02-04-2005 17:31:40  
Tim,
As far as the tranny, it is built the same as the D15, but all the gears and shift collars are different. No 2 part numbers in the crawler will cross to anything else. New ones are not to be found, but you can find used parts fairly reasonably - just takes some leg work. As jdemaris said, undercarriage parts aren't too hard to come up with, if you're willing to pay for them. New bull gears and pinions can be had, too. I bought a new pinion gear for my HD3 for about $650.00, and the quality was excellent. Some items (hydraulic cylinders, for example), it might pay to get to know a good machinist, but it's nothing I would be scared of. I think you'll be surprised at what this little tractor will do. The work you are talking about doing with it shouldn't be much of a workout for it. It is surprisingly powerful for its size (a common trait for AC, I think), and is pretty easy to get accustomed to. Just remember - it's old, slow, and small, and should be operated accordingly. If you keep those three things in mind when you run it, it should last you a long time. Good luck, and keep us posted!

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Tim Lockey

02-05-2005 17:30:20




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to Dale(MO), 02-05-2005 09:57:24  
Dale, Thanks for the reply and the info.I am really getting alot 0f information from this forum.'preciate all the feedback from everyone. Its nice to find some folks who don't think your an idiot for wanting to bring home something that hasn't run for 20 years and spending alot of time and $ to make it run again.I've wanted a small dozer to take the strain off my 240 Furguson but couldnt justify the borrowing of 1000s to get it. I'm better able to afford cost of parts as I (slowly) rebuild. If anyone has any advice on teardown order, and things to watch out for/things that get missed,I'd sure be interested.Thanks again to all.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

02-05-2005 05:14:08




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to Tim Lockey, 02-04-2005 17:31:40  
I've got an HD4 and an HD6, and so for I've had no trouble getting parts. There are several ex-industrial Allis Chalmers dealers around that sell - new old stock of original AC parts, newly manufactured parts that come from AGCO or Minparr, or used parts. With undercarriage parts, aftermarket manufaturers like Berco, are cutting back on slow moving stuff e.g. bottom rollers for AC and IH crawlers. So, the option of new $165 rollers might disappear soon. AC dealers have rollers new for the series H3, HD3, H4, HD4, and 650s, but they're over $200 apiece. As I undersand it, the new rollers they are selling are the heavy duty type that were optional on the 650 series. Think they have Timken style bearings in them instead of bushings like the HD6s have. I'm too cheap to pay the price - I just bought good used rollers off an H3 to put on my HD4 for $70 apiece.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
thurlow

02-03-2005 21:06:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to jdemaris, 02-03-2005 19:42:18  
There's a non-running HD-4 sitting about 5 miles from me, about 50 miles N of Memphis; assume the trucking would make it too expensive???? Of course, I don't know if it's for sale, but could find out????



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
james robbins

02-22-2005 19:04:22




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to thurlow, 02-03-2005 21:06:45  
hello i was wondering if the hd4 was for sale i would be grateful for any help thanks



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
jdemaris

02-04-2005 05:22:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: HD-3 Questions in reply to thurlow, 02-03-2005 21:06:45  
The trucking would probably cost more than the machine is worth since I'm in central New York state. But, I'd appreciate you asking about it.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy