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JD 850D

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Jeremy Sprouse

02-20-2005 12:57:07




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I"m looking at buying a JD 850D, Serial # 375235T. It had been sitting in a field for about 3 years and owner recently got it going and wants to sell it. He"s asking $24,000. I"m sure fuel tank, lines, and filters need cleaning. It looks good, undercarriage is good, and has a six way blade. I"ve seen in some past posts that some don"t like the hydrostatics on them. Any other problematic area"s I should look at. Any idea on horsepower, year and decent price. Thanks.

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Billy NY

02-23-2005 19:09:06




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-20-2005 12:57:07  
15 years ago, the outfit I worked for had an 850, I operated it on a few jobs, for 1 year. I think it was in decent condition overall, but do recall the hydrostatic arrangement was an area of concern, as well as a few other components, but nonetheless, it was a stout enough machine to do some hard work. With that said, it's an operators opinion only, I have no knowlege of mechanical aspects of these. I dug a large pond in the rocky mountain soils with it, large boulders to contend with, it held up fine, but in the long run I'm not sure how these did without major work required. It was interesting to read the performance comparison below, I don't think I'd argue, as these were different from anything I ran at the time, but as longevity goes, Cat had JD hands down on that end at the time. 2 different animals for sure. I'd love to demo current model of the 850, I've heard they have come a log way since the old ones, and I'd bet they're a good machine, much improved over the early ones, hopefully more durable from an investment standpoint. I ran a brand new JD 550 in '93, for another outfit. I liked that one hands down, was well balanced, boy did it cut nicely ! Probelm is, they're all nice when new, had a brand new D4 G last year on rental, less than 2 hours on it, right from the dealer, and that was an excellent machine, it's first job was demo work, some real hard work, I took my time as I make sure to take good care of what I get from the rental house, the rates I get and the service I got, is well worth taking care of their equipment, as if it was mine, grease, not being abusive when operating etc. The proprietor knows how I operate and appreciates my respect for machinery,if I ever need anything in a bind, I'm covered, which is nice to know, I kind strayed away here, but renting is another viable option to get work done, I have an older D7, but preferred to rent hands down sometimes, well worth it when you plan your job carefully, these new ones are highly productive and fuel efficient. Back to the subject;

Not being familiar with the 850's components, I'd seek the help/advice of a JD knowlegable person, to take a look and help evaluate the machine before dumping $24,000. I'd absolutley want to know that everything is working properly and up to par, knowing that these are somewhat unique and costly to repair. I'd also measure that undercarriage and compare it to what new dimensions call for, to accurately determine the percentage worn, I'd certainly not believe a verbal quote on the actual condition, measurements don't lie. You certainly could find a decent machine for that price, if you look around. My preference would be an older Cat, say a D-6 C which was an excellent performer as was the latter D series, but in all fairness, at least one that has a decent ownership history with proper servicing, has good parts back up, and was not a problematic model for the Mfr. no matter what brand. Far better to spend more up front on a machine that checks out to be in good condtition, and had a solid reputation to perform. That 850 if in good working condtion, with no real problems, and or problems on the horizon, could perform well, depending on the work you do with it, abusive type work will definitely allow it to show its true colors !

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Jonathan in MA

02-22-2005 16:21:52




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-20-2005 12:57:07  
First thing...no such animal as an 850D .. newest model is a "C". My guess is its an 850 with a D in the serial number. Second item...why was it sitting in a field for several years??..this dude have too much money kicking around that he didnt feel like selling it or using it ? or was it that it has some sort of major problem and didnt feel like spending the money to repair it?? There are a lot of things that should be checked on those machines before buying . undercarriage condition being high on the list . Any final drive leaks or problems ?? Do either transmission leak excessively ?? is there ANY oil left in the splitter box ? (its under the floor boards and often neglected. It has a small oil capacity and often is noticed when it runs dry and self destructs) The track frames pivot on bushings in the rear on those and when they become loose, its a big dollar item and lots of work to repair. I've never seen a 6 way blade on an older 850 in this area (Massachusetts) as the design of those was not the best and didnt hold up well in the rocky environment here. Lots of pivot points to loosen up with wear. I'd be a litlle leary and find out why its been stagnant for so long..

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2x4

02-20-2005 21:12:10




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-20-2005 12:57:07  
$11,000 to $15,000 at auctions in march, april, may of 2004 in U.S. One as low as $8500. Probably made 1980.



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the tractor vet

02-20-2005 13:29:21




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-20-2005 12:57:07  
Now as for me i like the Deeres but like all things they can have problems keeping both hydro motors doing the same thing can sometimes be a pain . I ran one of the first 750's in the oil patch years ago and would that dozer ever work it would run circles around a cat out pull out push it would get in out of the mud better with out getting hung up and i was not easy on that one it was wide open full tilt forward and full tilt backwards i realy wanted to see if i could break it i was impressed it was like runnig a big skidsteer. and then they came out with the 850 and a good freind bought one and i spent a bunch of time on it and liked it it had a bunch more power , there again it would out work the D7's in the patch we had winches on them and they were the only dozer that you could winch and track at the same time and when winchen trucks up steep hills you could winch a truck up to you hold it in place and track up the hill while out feeding the cable . Any way i like them .

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Jeremy Sprouse

02-21-2005 16:40:06




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to the tractor vet, 02-20-2005 13:29:21  
Am I right in saying this is a JD 850(D)? I have searched the net high and low and could not find anything on an 850D, plenty of b's and c's, but no D's. If there is a D series, what was different about it, if anything? Thanks.



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2x4

02-21-2005 23:37:39




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-21-2005 16:40:06  
there is a D series; its a pretty rare machine, probably 100 C's sold for each D. The C's are also NEWER models & worth much more.



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the tractor vet

02-21-2005 17:03:13




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 Re: JD 850D in reply to Jeremy Sprouse, 02-21-2005 16:40:06  
Not to my knolage i have run the stright 750's and 850's and the B series and have hauled the newer ones but never played with the C just load and unload . The only thing that i can think of in a D series would be a Case. And i am not much on Cases .



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