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2010JD Highlift.

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StephenMO

03-10-2005 18:23:49




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We cant get our 2010 to fire. My grandpa owned it before he died and it was passsed on to my dad. My grandpa had worked on it for several years and couldn't get it running. I am 16 years old and am trying to get it running and am having a hard time.The crawler hasn't ran in at least 6 years but had fortunatly been sitting in a shed. Two of the valves were stuck and i got them loose and replaced the coil,condenser,fuel lines,some wires,spark plugs and wires,and the rotor. Also it didn't have a switch so i had one in my barn that I think was made for a lawn mower but had the same connections as the crawler. I can get it to turn over and sometimes have spark. sometimes its week and sometimes its bright blue. When I put the spark plugs back in the engine it seemed like it didn't have no spark. It wouldn't fire even though I primed the cylinders with a little gas. When I worked on it in the fall I shot a little ether in the carb and smoke did roll out of the exhaust but it would not fire. After a while of cranking it backfired really really load. I will have to admit it scared me! It backfired 2 times after craking and working on it for about 2 hours. I don't know what the order is for the plug wires that enter the distributer cap, such as what cylinder plug wire should go where into the cap. What should I do, I have run out of ideas and need some pointers. Every day I think about it one day running and that is the only thing that keeps me working on it and that knowing my grandpa will be proud if I get it running. He worked for John Deere back in the day and he worked and worked on the 2010 industrial crawler/highlift. I really want to get it running and if anybody could tell me want else to do or give me a checklist to go through or anything it would greatly be aprieciated. Thanks to everyone who has helped me and thanks to everyone on this board. Stephen

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Jbull

03-10-2005 21:03:36




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 Re: 2010JD Highlift. in reply to StephenMO, 03-10-2005 18:23:49  
Sounds like you've got your hands full. I'm not familiar with your exact application, but I do have a few rules of thumb tips for you.
First, you have got to have air/fuel mixture, then compression, then a nice bright spark at the plugs, and last, some way for the explosion(or exhaust) to get out. Sounds simple huh?, well it actually is. the only trouble is with your tractor, my quess is something is simply out of order. First make sure that the firing order is right. Pull the number one spark plug(the one that is closest to the fan) hold your finger over the hole and have a buddy turn the motor by hand or by "bumping" the starter(careful not go to fast). Just a soon as you feel the compression blow your finger off of the hole, stop, at the moment the number 1 piston should be pretty close to top dead center(tdc) next pull the distributor cap and see where the rotor is pointing in relation to the distributor cap. Follow the plug wire from that spot on the cap and the other end should end up at the number 1 hole(the one with the plug out). if it doesn't, fix it so that it does. next determine which way the rotor turns(probably clockwise).Your firing order should be stamped on the engine block. if it is a 6 cyl. it might something like 163542, and if it is a 4 cyl no guarantees but it might be something like 1432 or 1342. if your rotor turns clockwise just follow the sequence in connecting your wires up. After that is straightened out. make sure you have a strong spark. to become familiar with a strong spark, take the plug out of a good running lawn mower and hook the wire back up and touch the plug to a good ground source on the engine and give the pull rope a good tug, you should be able to hear the spark as well as see it in daylight. Now you can check all of the plugs on the tractor and see what you got.If you've got plenty of fire, and you have plenty of compression, and the air/fuel mixture is getting into the engine, you should have a tractor that will at least start. so many times I have tried to make things to complicated, then the problem turned out to be something stupid and simple. Do you know any more history on the tractor, like whether someone has taken it apart before or after it quit running, and how did it quit running, or did you ever see it run, if so did it sound good, or did it sound like the beverly hillbillies truck? Just remember, all engines have these things in common, they have to have, Air, Fuel, compression, and some means of ignition. and all at the right time!!

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StephenMO

03-11-2005 12:34:52




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 Re: 2010JD Highlift. in reply to Jbull, 03-10-2005 21:03:36  
Thank you so much I can't wait to go work on it. I never did see it run but my dad says it did run good until one day it was getting dark so they left it in the field. After a coulple of days they went back to start it and it would n't start so they put it in the barn and it hasn't run since. My grandpa probaly had it aprt a few time since he used to work at John Deere. Thanks so much I bet there is some simple problem that I'm just overlooking. Thanks again and have a nice day.

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