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Case 580CK 188D/207D starter drives

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jdemaris

03-14-2005 10:02:20




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I'm replacing the 188 diesel engine in my 580CK backhoe with a newer 207D engine. The starter drive for the original 188 has 9 teeth. The starter drive for the 207D starter has 10 teeth. So, I got checking part numbers in my 580CK book for the 188 engine, and it shows both - 9 and 10 tooth, depending on certain options like hydraulic shuttle shift, clutch driven, etc. So, I'm a little puzzled. Parts book shows the same tooth and part number ring-gear, regardless if a 9 or 10 tooth drive is used. I've bolted up both starters, and both appear to mesh well. It seems that one must mesh better than the other if the tooth count is different? If the matching ring gear was different, it would easily make sense - but there is only one ring gear for either drive. I kind of hate to find out later that under load when cranking, the wrong starter-drive gear is going to screw up the ring-gear. Anybody know any more about this?

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J in Ky

03-14-2005 15:24:12




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 Re: Case 580CK 188D/207D starter drives in reply to jdemaris, 03-14-2005 10:02:20  
I dont have an answer but I have had similar problems with a case skidsteer with the 188 engine. I bought this machine from a guy who had gone to the case dealer and got a replacement starter and it wouldnt engage the flywheel at all, it would hit it and stop. I brought it home and put a starter on from a 530 ck backhoe with the 188 engine and it worked fine. I took the new starter back to the dealer and they said that was the starter their book said to put on the skidsteer. I made them give me the money back for the starter and just kept the old starter from the 530 backhoe on it. It has worked just fine for over 4 years now. The backhoe had a blown engine anyway, but now Im ready to overhaul the backhoe and will need to buy a new starter and who knows, I may have the same problem you are now having. If you wind up with a spare starter you dont need I may be interested in buying it.

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