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Dry clutches X2

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Pete/ME

03-20-2005 04:12:01




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(Early JD350 crawler) Yesterday I started moving around some snow (what else) and the clutches started to work a little. I had to stand on the floorboards and yawn back on the controls with both hands. But this is strange: when I push down the foot brake, the right steering handle snaps back?
Also a while back I posted that the reverser worked backwards in first gear but thought I might be having a senior moment? Sure enough that's what's happening. In second the reverser knob works the right way, but in first it's just backwards. Other than that it works O.K. It's got me puzzled.

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Rob in Yukon

03-20-2005 08:35:15




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 Re: Dry clutches X2 in reply to Pete/ME, 03-20-2005 04:12:01  
I agree with jdemaris. I have done the reverse/reverse thing. You will get a forward speed something like 2nd gear, in fact you can leave your reverser in reverse and shift the transmission through all gears in reverse and use transmission reverse to go forward. I wouldn't recommend doing this for very long, but it got me through a job when I knew I was rebuilding soon anyway.



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jdemaris

03-20-2005 06:52:09




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  Reversing reverser does not seem possible in reply to Pete/ME, 03-20-2005 04:12:01  
Foot brake getting "attached" to the steering lever is a common problem on 350s. One of the brake shafts passes through a cast yoke, and they are supposed to be independent of each other. They get rusted fast. With on-site repairs, if they were stuck real bad, we'd torch a notch in top of the yoke and make just enough of a hole to put oil in. Not the neatest repair, but it often worked well and saved the time of tearing the final drive and clutch housing all apart. Cut the hole, then hold down hard on the brake pedal while forcing the steering lever back and forth. Add oil as it cools. As far as your reverser problem goes, seems theorectically impossible to me. I know ever moving part in that reverser, including all the parts in the control valve, and I can't imagine any scenario where the forward-reverse control could "reverse" itself on an ad-hoc basis. When the reverser is actually in REVERSE, you can hear it. It uses a small set of straight cut gears on a countershaft when it is in reverse function, and is susequently noisier than when in FORWARD. Are you sure you're not just putting the gear transmission in reverse? The older 350s have a gear reverse that is right next to first gear forward, but it was left out of the newer ones. Reverse-reverse equals forward motion. What happens if you don't touch the reverser lever - leave it alone. And then, put the gear transmission in what you are calling first gear? It sounds like either you're not fully aware of the gear transmission gear pattern, or the linkage is worn or out of adjustemt, and it's not going in the gear you think it is.

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Pete/ME

03-21-2005 03:52:40




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 Re: Reversing reverser does not seem possible in reply to jdemaris, 03-20-2005 06:52:09  
The shifting pattern has got to be what's going on. What I think is 1st is probably reverse. You'll love this: I was going by the shift pattern stamped on the shifting knob, never looked at the O.M. Knob could have come from anything...the machine's almost forty years old! Thanks.



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