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Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel

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BKahler

03-27-2005 15:31:30




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I only have to install the crank gear onto the crank and I'm ready to put the crank in the block. This brings me to my question.

The factory manual says to use the gear heater to heat the gear up to temperature before sliding/pressing it onto the crank. Since I don't have one of those heaters I'm wondering what the best way to install the gear would be. I have an oxy/acetyline torch that I can use to warm up the gear but I'm not sure if that is the best approach. I also have a modeling heat gun but I doubt that it will get the gear hot enough. Also, once I get the gear hot will I need to use a press or will it slide on relatively easily?

Any tips or suggestions greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Brad

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george md

03-27-2005 17:05:57




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to BKahler, 03-27-2005 15:31:30  
Brad,

Torch will do just fine . Use a very soft flame as you don't want any hot spots. Temperature
should not excede 350 deg F , more will change
the heat treatment. Put a little oil film on the gear teeth and heat
the inner area , oil film will begin to vapor at
about 250 deg , heat for another few seconds ,let
heat soak thru gear , and install on crank. Most
easily done with crank standing vertical .

george

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BKahler

03-27-2005 18:47:11




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to george md, 03-27-2005 17:05:57  
Hi George,

Thanks for the tips. I had the gear installed by the time your post arrived. I think I pretty much did what your advice and Stressfree's advice was and it worked fine. There was still a little oil on the gear and when I was heating the gear using a rosebud tip set to a soft flame held a ways back from the gear I notice a light smoke coming off it after a short time. I figured that it was about right for install at that point. I did have the crank standing on end and quickly lined the gear up and started tapping it down with a large socket and it seated just fine.

Got the crank installed tonight but haven't torqued the bearings down yet. Figured I do that tomorrow.

One question I do have on the main cap bolts. Should I apply a light coat of oil before installing the bolts? We do that with our race car engines because its supposed to provide a more even torque. I can't find anything like that mentioned in the manual though. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the tips!

Brad

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george md

03-27-2005 19:48:17




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to BKahler, 03-27-2005 18:47:11  
Brad, I use an extreme pressure lube, like cam assembly lube or even bearing installation lube.
Make sure that you get some under the head of the
bolt to get true torque reading.

george



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stressfree

03-28-2005 03:06:31




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to george md, 03-27-2005 19:48:17  
hi george found a backhoe over the weekend.dont know if its a #33 model #s wore off serial # ok.guy told me its in the 80s.also has the brackets.brackets look aftermarket theres some welding involved.i dont think theres a 100 hours on it.buckets brand new.only thing from sitting i had to free up the valve body.



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BKahler

03-28-2005 03:04:47




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to george md, 03-27-2005 19:48:17  
George,

Sounds good. I think I'll give the assembly lube a try.

Any suggestions on the assembly order for the rest of the engine? Should I do the pistons and liners next, or the cam, or....?

Thanks!

Brad



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george md

03-28-2005 08:51:39




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to BKahler, 03-28-2005 03:04:47  
Brad, If you put the liners in first ,it reduces any
chance of knocking rust flakes or dirt down onto
the crank. Then put in the cam and followers ,
it's much easier to put the followers in place
if the crank is not in yet.

george



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BKahler

03-28-2005 17:25:59




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to george md, 03-28-2005 08:51:39  
Dang!

I installed the crank last night. Is it worth the effort to pull the crank to put the liners in? Looking at where the tappets go I think I can get them with no problem. But I am worried about rust from the liners as you mentioned.

Oh yeah, went to start the liner installation and couldn't find the o-rings in either the top end or bottom end kits. Turns out they weren't included. Now I have to wait until I can order them in before proceeding. Drats!

Brad

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stressfree

03-27-2005 15:48:41




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 Re: Installing crank gear on Case 188 diesel in reply to BKahler, 03-27-2005 15:31:30  
heat is heat,propane will work,torch will also.get welding gloves so you dont burn yourself.it just has to heat up not cherry red.it will expand.



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