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Running bucket with no teeth

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Jon (IN)

03-29-2005 10:33:12




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I have got a small Case 350 track loader that I want to use for some finish work on a yard. I was wondering if I could remove the teeth to get a smoother cut and finish? Kind of more like a skid loader. Anybody had any experience doing this? Seems like with the teeth it really wants to dig in. It's kind of hard to "skim" off an inch or two. Thanks.




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Bobb

03-30-2005 16:13:51




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to Jon (IN), 03-29-2005 10:33:12  
How about welding some grader blade edge across another set of replaceable teeth that way all you have to do is knock out the retaining pins to change from teeth to straight edge



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captain_crunch

03-29-2005 21:22:47




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to Jon (IN), 03-29-2005 10:33:12  
This will work as long as the holes for the teeth don't get damaged and no longer hold teeth tight when you want them



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Dale(MO)

03-29-2005 15:34:32




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to Jon (IN), 03-29-2005 10:33:12  
Jon,
My HD3 Allis Chalmers came with a smooth bucket. I graded quite a bit with it, and you can"t beat it for a smooth finish. I found the best way to grade with it was to turn it all the way up, and doze with it. Much easier than trying to skim, and lots more control. It seems like you"re not getting any dirt moved, until you look back after a couple of hours. The downfall is, you will go nowhere fast trying to hog out dirt, especially if there are any tree roots, or if the ground is very hard. That"s where the teeth are needed. As was previously stated, root raking is much less effective without teeth, as is roughing in grade. If it is not too time-consuming, I would get all the rough work done with the teeth; then take off the teeth and do the finish work. The bolt holes in the edge should be nothing to worry about. Or, you could always retro-fit a smooth edge to clamp on over the teeth (if you are handy with a torch and welder). Good luck!

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srs/mn

03-29-2005 15:16:54




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to Jon (IN), 03-29-2005 10:33:12  
You can use your bucket without teeth if you want to, but I'd recommend you get used to using it with the teeth left on it, as there are a couple of advantages - First, of course is it digs much better in hard material, another advantage is it works like a mini-rake when you are cleaning up brush and sticks; you don't get so much dirt in your burn pile; then there is the big advantage of using it to spread material, like topsoil or stone, to a uniform depth... (it works exactly like a notched trowel does when spreading mud or glue under floor tile)... I could stretch a load of topsoil a long ways by using the teeth as a depth gauge... of course, if you want to avoid leaving teeth marks on the job when you backdrag for a smooth finish, then you will have to do without the teeth... OR... invest in a multi-purpose (4 in 1) bucket... then you can have the teeth AND a smooth edge in one unit.
srs/mn

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rustyallis

03-30-2005 12:22:14




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to srs/mn, 03-29-2005 15:16:54  
I have been using my allis H3 with the teeth on the bucket. with a liitle practice you would be surprised at how well you can grade a lot. Then in the same day you can remove any unwanted debris and stumps. i suggest keep the teeth



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DGH

03-29-2005 12:26:26




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to Jon (IN), 03-29-2005 10:33:12  
I have two buckets for my JD 450 for just that reason. The original had good teeth and was good for heavy work but poor for finishing. I came accros a used bucket at a good price, I took the teeth off and filled in the holes and it is now my finishing bucket and works well.



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Blackhole

03-30-2005 03:05:06




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 Re: Running bucket with no teeth in reply to DGH, 03-29-2005 12:26:26  
I had teeth welded to my bobcat bucket. I cut them off and made two cutting edges out of an old front plow cutting edge. Welded the teeth back on one. Now with 6 bolts I can change edges. Works real well.



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