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My 1010 CLB

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Bret4207

05-05-2005 05:17:15




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2 or 3 years ago, must be 3 years now, I bought a 1010 crawler/loader/backhoe from a friend. The engine was out at another farm for "a rebuild" and the chasis was in the weeds behind his house. I went to get the engine and the guy "working on it" brought the peices out in a skid steer bucket! Needless to say not everything was there and not seeing the thing taken apart I had quite a time putting it back toghether. Ebay supplied a shop manual, not for the industrial crawler I later found out, and a parts book and Crawler Heaven supplied a rebuild kit and sleeve deck. My local Deere dealer is a freindly place and they let me look through what ever old manuals I need to put things back together and I have coffee with one of their mechanics most mornings so I can pick his brain too. The engine went back together easily with a bit of help lining things up from my neighbors. That is one HEAVY engine for its size. The biggest problem was the wiring, which was a rats nest of splices and tape. Got the last of that fixed yesterday. I've had it running a bit in the past but yesterday I took it out for a spin. The reverser works fine, hydraulics seem fine and the engine runs great. The starter needs a rebuild yet as it barely turns the engine over and heats up way to quickly. The steering levers need some adjustment, I'm punching myself in the chest every turn I make and the brakes aren't working at all. I'm down to a few little things like replacing a leaking upper radiator hose, an exhaust pipe clamp, some plow bolts for the nose mountings and picking up the backhoe. Oh yeah, and I need a seat cushion set. I had to make the head bolts as they were missing and JD wanted something like $18.00 a peice for them. The old Atlas lathe came through again reducing the shanks on the grade 8 bolts I used to match the 1 original bolt I got. I later got a complete set of head bolts off ebay for $10.00. Haven't put them in and may not bother since everything appears hunkey-dorry at the moment. I figuered out yesterday that the bucket has its own hydraulic filter and loosened up the indicator that tells when the filter needs a change. Gotta order the filter because the indicator pegs out at the top as soon as you start the tractor. Judging by the wear on the bucket this machine has done a lot of work. The tracks must have been re-pinned and bushed or replaced because they're in great shape.

All in all I'll have $2000.00 in the purchase and maybe $1000.00 more in parts. I've already been offered $5000.00 for the rig as it sits, so I guess I did OK. I do wish there was a nice 3 or 4 cylinder diesel that would fit the machine with a bit more power. I'd think around 45 HP would be right. J DeMaris mentioned not being impressed with his 1010's power the other day here. Mine won't climb a hill in 4th or a big hill in 3rd, but 2nd seems OK. Time will tell as far as the engines power on the hydraulic end. I've got ditching to do, fence line to clear, thorn bush to up root and rocks to pull. Add a bit of drain line work and foundation work and the machine should be busy. Just wanted to shaer a little success story. Hope I haven't jinxed myself.

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AndrewD

05-06-2005 04:44:00




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to Bret4207, 05-05-2005 05:17:15  
my dad bought a 1010 crawler-loader-backhoe. it became a money pit. i think we put around 2000 in the undercarriage, 2200 in the motor, 2000 in the reverser and around 500 in hoses for the hoe. everytime we tried to use it for something we ended up breaking something on it. all that being said, i loved that machine as i was the only one who used it. i liked how easy the hoe came off and how the hoe was light enough to keep the front end on the ground unlike a 350. something u might want to find is the dozer blade that pins on where your bucket goes. i have one, but dont want to sell it as one day i will get another 1010 crawler loader. also i have some 1010c parts and loader frames if u need parts. enjoy your machine.

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jdemaris

05-05-2005 05:39:12




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to Bret4207, 05-05-2005 05:17:15  
The hydraulic system has two filters, not just one. The second filter is hidden on the bottom of the tank hidden under the oil. Also, even with new filters, the restriction-indicator will jump up and down with cold oil if you are using regular grade Hy-Guard. 2010 engine is a bolt-in replacement for the 1010 and has quite a bit more power. I'd like to hear more about the "kit" you bought for the engine. I've never seen a kit offered anywhere and I've never seen an aftermarket sleeve-deck either - at least not for a gas-engine 1010. The 1010 diesel uses a larger bore 2010 gas deck (same part number). There is a Chinese company now making sleeve decks and oversize pistons for the 2010 engines. In regard to the head-bolts, I would think cutting down a grade-8 bolt would weaken it and lower it's designated tensile strength. The original bolts, as I recall, were pressed into shape - not cut. It's been over a year since I've had any 1010 engines apart, but . . . why is cutting down the bolt shank even necessary?

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Bret4207

05-05-2005 15:26:55




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to jdemaris, 05-05-2005 05:39:12  
Well, I guess I should say Ed at Crawler Heaven gathered the parts together into a "kit". I'm sure the sleeve deck was from Deere. The bolts have a reduced shank because oil or coolant runs past one of two of them, or so I was told by a guy at the dealership who's been wrenching on Deeres for almost 50 years. We're talking about reducing a 9/16" bolt shank down to about 1/2" so there still an enormous amount of metal there. Crawler Heaven is oout of Palmyra NY. I get the impression you're out near Rochester?

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jdemaris

05-05-2005 20:10:51




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to Bret4207, 05-05-2005 15:26:55  
I'm in Otsego County a few miles from Cooperstown, Oneonta, Cobleskill, etc. Probably a 3-4 hour ride from Crawler Heaven. I tried to buy parts from him once and gave up after waiting six months. March of 2004 he said he have my parts ready in a few weeks. After three months went buy, he offered to sell me some new parts instead of the used ones as promised, I said I still wanted the used ones he said he had and would pull for me, three more months went by, and I gave up. Sounds like you did better than I did. I found another guy in the same area as Crawler Heaven that strips crawlers and sell parts. I called him, he said the parts would be ready for me that weekend, they were just as he promised, I went up and got them - no problems. It's kind of nice when someone follows through on something. In regard to the headbolts - I never heard that one about a passage for coolant and/or oil. I've worked on more 1010s and 2010s than I wish to remember, and I've seen them with necked-down head bolts and straight shank head bolts - seems they came both ways. The rear stud (not head bolt) that the valve cover and rear rocker-arm assembly fastens to has a flat that lets oil up from the head to oil the rocker arms. As far as turning down a head bolt - I'm not an expert in tensile strength versus various types of alloys and heat treatments - but - some bolts depend on their outer layer being intact to achieve their designed tensile strength rating. The factory made necked-down bolts are either pressed/forged into shape (not cut with metal removed) or heat-treated after all machining is done. Will any of that make any difference on a 1010? Heck, I don't know, but I figure it needs all the help it can get. A head bolt is, basically, just a spring that has to keep it's tension for an awful long time.

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Bret4207

05-06-2005 04:22:37




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to jdemaris, 05-05-2005 20:10:51  
I'm up near Gouverneur, north east of Watertown. Yeah, Ed was slow, but he was my only source at the time that I knew of and his price was good. I know there's another outfit dismanteling in NY that I see advertising in the Antique Power mag. I think they're in Parrish? As far as the rod bolts, I don't know anymore than what I was told. I originally thought it might have been an expansionissue, but the mech. at Deere said the fluid passes by. I may yet end up putting the factory ones in. BTW-I enjoy your posts.

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jdemaris

05-06-2005 05:44:34




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to Bret4207, 05-06-2005 04:22:37  
I've got some forestland near Watertown in the town of Worth. Funny you mention Gouverneur - I've studied the history of that town. I live near Cooperstown which I guess is known for the Baseball Hall of Fame and the book "Last of the Mohicans." But, the guy that founded Cooperstown - Judge Cooper, wrote a few books on how to "sucessfully create your own town" in the 1700s, and after creating Cooperstown, he went up north and created Gouverneur. Seems his second attempt at town-creation was not as sucessful as his first. The guy I got parts from was Eric Morris in Norwood - (315) 353-2316. I think his father owns the property in Norwood and lives closer to me in Lake George in the Adirondacks. Good people to deal with.

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Lavoy

05-05-2005 08:21:43




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to jdemaris, 05-05-2005 05:39:12  
Are they making gas and diesel parts both? I know the diesel parts have gotten just outrageous.
Lavoy



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jdemaris

05-05-2005 10:07:14




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to Lavoy, 05-05-2005 08:21:43  
I am not sure and am going to look further into it. I found out about the Chinese parts when looking for some Allis Chalmers engine parts - for the HD6 344 Buda engine and the HD4 200 cube engine. I found a place selling Chinese made engine parts and they listed, as being newly produced, the Buda and AC stuff, and also 2010 sleeve decks and oversize pistons for 2010 gas and diesel. I've never seen the parts or tried to buy any as of yet. I'll try to find the info and I'll post it here.

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Lavoy

05-05-2005 08:21:35




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 Re: My 1010 CLB in reply to jdemaris, 05-05-2005 05:39:12  
Are they making gas and diesel parts both? I know the diesel parts have gotten just outrageous.
Lavoy



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