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Case 188 Diesel Engine Questions

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John Van Valken

05-08-2005 22:09:47




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Hello all,

I finally got time to pull the pistons on the 188 I'm rebuilding and was glad to find the "smoking gun" that was the cause of all the excess blowby. The top compression ring in the #2 cylinder was broken. I've already got a nice kit with new pistons, rings and wrist pins. I was looking through the parts book and I see that the wrist pins ride in a replacable bushing. This bushing has an oil hole that aligns with a hole on the top of the con rod. My first question is: how does oil get to the top of the con rod in the first place? I ask this because two of the rods have bushings that don't have their oil hole lined up with the top of the rod and subsequently I don't see how the wrist pin gets any lubrication.

My second question is on the bottom of the con rod there is a small hole that exits out a tiny hole in the side of the con rod itself. What is the purpose of this hole? Pressure relief, or does this "squirt" oil on the cylinder wall?

My third question deals with the 3rd (oil) ring on the piston itself. I see that there are several holes cut through the piston around the area where this ring sits. Is this to allow oil to scrape off the cylinder wall and exit under the top of the piston? Is this what supplies oil to the hole in the top of the con rod that in turn lubes the wrist pin bushing?

My fourth question is about the con rod cap nuts and bolts. Is there any reason to replace these or can they be re-used?

I'm showing my ignorance here but how do the cylinder walls get lubrication in the first place? I always was under the impression that engine oil ran through the crank and up through the con rod and was allowed to spray/dribble out the middle of the oil rings. I don't see how this could be the case though as the con rods appear to be solid in the middle (no oil passage).

I'm planning on replacing the wrist pin bushings anyhow as the old ones show some signs of overheating, especially the two that don't have the oil hole lined up with the con rod. The old wrist pins looked fine though and the bushings themselves appear to be within tolerance.

Thanks!
John
1968 Case 450

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jdemaris

05-09-2005 06:14:04




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 Re: Case 188 Diesel Engine Questions in reply to John Van Valkenburgh, 05-08-2005 22:09:47  
Most engines in the size class of the Case 188D or 207D use splash oiling for the piston skirts and wrist pins and bushings. There are a few engines that, in addition to that, also have small orifices that squirt a tiny stream of pressure oil directly on to the thrust face of the piston (like some of the older Deere engines). A rod bolt or nut is nothing more than a solid steel spring. When tightened it is part-way stretched. Like any spring, evenutally they get tired and sometimes break. So, it's kind of a crap-shoot. A bolt may be fine and last many hours, or it may break and ruin the engine. Good rule of thumb is - if the new fasteners are available and priced reasonably, replace them for good insurance. same goes for head bolts. One case in point (no pun intended). I just replaced a Case 188D engine in a 580CK hoe that got ruined because a rod-bolt broke, the rod came through the side of the block and also broke the camshaft in two. It had a lot of hours on. One thing you didn't mention that is very important when rebuilding diesels is having the big end of rods checked for size and roundness - i.e. "resized." Should be standard procedure. A good machine shop is set up to do this. They check it, and if it's round and the correct size - fine. If not, they shave the rod cap a bit, then rehone it to the proper fit. Oil relief holes in the pistons are so oil can get back out. If they plug, the engine will start to smoke. Checking the fit of a wrist pin to the rod bushing is done, usually, by "feel." Checking the fit to the piston if it's aluminum is different - the piston needs to be hot when checked since the expansion rate of aluminum is greater than cast-iron or steel.

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