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How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!!

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Robert in W. Mi

05-12-2005 21:17:21

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How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!!

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NC Wayne

05-12-2005 23:43:08

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 05-12-2005 21:17:21

When you ride the ferris wheel you need to leave the CAT on the ground..... ..... ...Thanks for the link, that was a truely amazing screwup and some awsome pics. Even though it happened in Canada I'm suprised I haven't seen anything in the MSHA newsletters we recieve about it yet. It makes a great statement about what can happen if your not paying attention 110% to what's happening around you when your running a piece of equipment. It's amazing the dozer operator wasn't killed and even more so that there wasn't any more damage done to either machine than there appeared to be.

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2x4

05-12-2005 23:36:54

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 05-12-2005 21:17:21

impressive!

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CK Lawn Care

05-13-2005 05:47:10

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to 2x4, 05-12-2005 23:36:54

Somethings dont make sence.. How in heck did the cat make it up off the ground and up on the arms of the wheel . with out just upsetting and falling back to the ground.. Ya have a D-8 Cat upside down for the most part . Where is the streaks of diesel fuel and engine oil, hydrulic oil leaking i see none . Who in heck after a accident like this and im sure MSHA Osha, EPA was around would just remove a Dozer and leave it laying on its side so more fluids could leak out ..... OH the biggest catch that i call bull on is You dont mine OIL , YOU Drill for oil

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Ed Boysun

05-13-2005 07:21:59

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to CK Lawn Care, 05-13-2005 05:47:10

Hi Guys, Glad you like the pics. CK, a couple things to think about. Just because you think the only way you get oil is to drill for it, doesn't make it so. Usually the oil bearing sands or rock formations are deep underground and the heat and pressure on them there, lets you drill and then either let them flow out of the well, or be pumped out. At the Athabasca Tar Sands, the oil sands are right on top of the ground, so they have to be heated and pressurized to free the oil.
Nearly one third of the oil in the whole world is thought to be in the sands near the mine. There is another slightly larger deposit like this one, in South America. This hi-dollar oil that the rest of the world has been pumping & you've been buying is barely the tip of the iceberg of what's available in the world.
As long as you are thinking; one more point. Why would there be any environmental consideration whatsoever about a gallon or two of spilled diesel or hyd. fluid? Remember, the sands have one third of all the oil in the world. They will mine it clean it at the same time they're doing the other million or so yards that they probably do in a day.

On the Cat-skinner: I'm not so sure that the machine was even occupied. It's possible that it just got left sitting in the wrong place. If you look closely at the picture, you will see the operater station near the bottom half of the bucket wheel. Looks like there is a huge blind spot on the side that picked up the dozer.

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Jack B. Nimble

05-13-2005 07:01:24

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to CK Lawn Care, 05-13-2005 05:47:10

Your wrong! They do mine for oil! I saw a show on discovery channel about this. They are digging out "oil sand". The sand is hauled to a facility by large conveyors where the oil is stripped from it then sent to a refinery. Canada has the largest oil reserve of this type in the world. That big machine is a german built monster, one of three(I think) that is the largest earth stripper in the world. It is unbelievable the amount of dirt it can move in a day. The other two machines are in Germany used to strip overburden from coal mines.

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CK Lawn Care

05-13-2005 08:05:59

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to Jack B. Nimble, 05-13-2005 07:01:24

(((Why would there be any environmental consideration whatsoever about a gallon or two of spilled diesel or hyd. fluid? Remember, the sands have one third of all the oil)))

I know that you know that but by damn in the USA god forbid ya drip one drop of oil on the ground or it ends up costing ya millions for clean up . whene like you say it comes from the earth , But ya have these environazi's that go ape sh!T over the dumbest things , I will correct my self on the drilling . But anyway .

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Deas Plant

05-14-2005 15:56:03

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Re: How NOT To Treat a D-8 CAT!!!! in reply to CK Lawn Care, 05-13-2005 08:05:59

Hi, Folks. CK, the other posters are right, both about the mining vs drilling and about the environmental problem. That whole patch of oil sand is eventually going to be mined and sent to the refractory anyway so what difference is a few more or less gallons of already processed oil going to make?

I have also been informed that the operator was NOT in the D8 when it was picked up so no damage to his shorts. If he had been in the cab and working, the whole thing likely would not have happened. Can"t say about the bucket wheel operator"s shorts though.

One thought that does occur to me is whether there is any sort of "auto-pilot" system on that
bucket wheel allowing the operator to "set-and-forget" for a while. If there is and it was running at the time, seems there might be a real good argument for disconnecting it. Or at least putting a "dead-man" set-up like they have on railway locos that puts the brakes on if the driver falls asleep or dies at the controls.

You all have a wonderful day.
Best wishes.
Deas Plant.

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