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Ian

05-19-2005 16:09:02




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im looking at a model td 24-92490 to buy. wondering what year it is, how much it weighs, does the blade tilt, what its worth. the blade is a14' bucyrus erie, and it also has a model j winch. any info would be of help. thanks




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captain_crunch

05-21-2005 23:16:21




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to Ian, 05-19-2005 16:09:02  
Deas pretty well sumed it up the 24 just about put IH out of buisseness they had too much power for finals and tore them up often Don't get me wrong I am an IH owner but the 24's are a money pit



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Ian

05-23-2005 15:51:36




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to captain_crunch, 05-21-2005 23:16:21  
I took it for a spin last friday. the fluid in the steering system was low and it would not turn at all until I added about 4 gal. and even after that it would not lock a track. Do you know if this fluid is just for the steering or what. The resivor is in part of the fuel tank.This modle has a gas over diesle engine, that is you start it on gas and then switch to diesle.It has an electric starter. The gas side of the dill is in need of some attion, so we started it on diesle and a shot of ether. It started in about ten seconds and sounded alot better than I expected.My only real concern is with the finals. Do you know how the steering works.Does air need to be bled or does it do it automaticly, or are the brakes just shot?

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Doug Foster

05-21-2005 20:20:01




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to Ian, 05-19-2005 16:09:02  

I don"t know what year or the value is. The undercarriage is the most concern, engine being second.
Machine of that era didn"t come with tilt blades, it could have a manual angle however.
The other guy who wrote didn"t have much faith in a TD-24, I don"t know why as he never ran one. I haven"t either, but I saw one being used at the antique show in Rollag, Mn labor day of 2004 and it worked fine. The owner and operator liked it. I have lots of time on TD6"s, 9"s, and 14"s. They were all rightin there time. I also am still running a TD-15C and TD-9H, good machines!

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Deas Plant

05-23-2005 03:16:09




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to Doug Foster, 05-21-2005 20:20:01  
Hi, Doug Foster. Yes, I did say I had never run a TD24. That does not mean that I know nothing about them. I have been in the operating game for over 40 years full time and over 10 years part-time before that. Just taking the time since I went full-time, I'd bet on over 100,000 hours in the saddle. I also have a habit of keeping my eyes and ears open and my wits about me.

I note that you said you had never run one either. The simple fact that you saw one running at Rollag does NOT mean it could go out and earn its keep doing a solid day's work in the real world every day and keep it up. The two environments are worlds apart.

I have a couple of photos of 'A' TD24 pulling a scraper at 'A' vintage machinery show. I have a couple of albums full of shots of D8's at numerous vintage machinery shows. Is there a message in there somewhere? I Theeenk so.

Word of mouth from operators who have run various machines counts for a fair bit, especially when they obviously know what they are doing on the jobs you work with them on. I have never heard one operator who did claim to have any amount of time on TD24's that had much good to say about them.

Sure, they were not bad machines to operate. Many of the operators I talked to said much the same thing. The trouble was that they had to spend so much time repairing the piles of junk too.

They did have some innovative ideas in them but the engineering was atrocious. From the reports I've heard, they seemed to handle agricultural drawbar work more or less O.K., probably because there were not many shock loads to the drive train.

Put them into 'dozer work, especially clearing timber or excavating rock and it was a whole different ball game. Those final drives and transmissions just FELL to bits.

Then there is the FACT that they had virtually completely disappeared from the face of the earthmoving/construction industry in just 18 years, in spite of two upgrades. I theeeenks there might just be a message hidden in there somewhere. Especially when you consider that there are still quite a lot of old Cat D8's around from that era AND quite a bit earlier

You believe what you like. I'm simply passing on what I have heard from men that I respect and the evidence of my own eyes about the almost complete extinction of the 'species' in a VERY short time.

An 'open' mind -- is that holes in the head?

You have a wonderful day.
Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Deas Plant

05-20-2005 00:42:30




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to Ian, 05-19-2005 16:09:02  
Hi, Ian. If you want a large paperweight, the TD24 will probably do the job. Around 26-27 tons rigged with the gear you have described.

However, IF you want a machine that will go and do a day"s work, whatever day you choose, then look for something else.

I"ll give you an idea of how good these machines weren"t. The first TD24"s came out in 1947. I started my operating career in 1965, just 18 years later, and I have yet to have a chance to operate one. I have only ever seen two "in the flesh". They were such a pile of pus that they had all but disappeared from the scene in those 18 years.

Those old Bucyrus Erie blades had both angle and tilt as manual operations - in other words, no power angle or tilt.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day.
Best wishes.
Deas Plant.

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dej(JED)

05-23-2005 10:29:54




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 Re: TD 24 in reply to Deas Plant, 05-20-2005 00:42:30  
A friend just got a decent looking TD24 given to him in Northern Texas. It had jumped a track and the guy was just tired of it. They hauled it 35 miles to his ranch and he says he has it going. I won't be there until early July, but it sounds like it may be useable for a Govt. funded grubbing operation.



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