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Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler

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Ken McWilliams

09-29-2001 07:08:12




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I am rebuilding a CASE 310D crawler loader. It has the under carriage suspended on springs and there is a lot of wear on all the moving components on that system.

I've looked at several newer models and brands of dozers and found that the under carriage is rigid usually attached in the front and back from each side of the machine.

I've been considering making the undercarriage non-movable on my crawler and eliminate the leaf springs that it has. The logic is that if it can be done for the the newly manufactured dozers then why not on my older one? It would eliminate part and wear points. Also, since this is a loader, the varying weight on the front causes the crawler to nose-dive and puts the strain on the moving suspension.

There are some 3/4" diameter holes already through the undercarriage's matching plates. It looks that I can raise/lower the crawler's front to align the holes and intall some grade 8 bolts in them.

My question is: Will this hinder some way the usefullness or steering of my crawler? I know that the original idea for the suspension was for track compliance to the surface, but does it help that much?

What's your experience and opinion on this?

Ken McWilliams
Dayton, OH

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Max

09-29-2001 09:05:27




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 Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to Ken McWilliams, 09-29-2001 07:08:12  
You call if a crawler loader? I don't recall the loaders having a suspension on them due to the loader, only the dozers had the suspension on the front. The dozers needed the suspension so that the track stayed in better contact with the ground for more push force. The dozers and loader had two completely different main frames, has someone pulled a switcheroo here?



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Ken McWilliams

09-29-2001 18:25:32




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 Re: Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to Max, 09-29-2001 09:05:27  
Max,

Every CASE 310 with loader that I've seen has the leaf spring suspension.

KRM



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John

09-29-2001 12:53:08




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 Re: Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to Max, 09-29-2001 09:05:27  
Ken, I have an early 310 that originally had springs but were removed by previous owner. I have used, abused, etc. for quite sometime without them with no ill effect. I do believe that all early 3 bottom roller models had them especially around the time of the change from Terra-trac to Case. Also I seem to remember that in one of your previous post you were looking for idler wheel brackets. For what its worth, if you're still looking try to find off a late model machine, much better design and more rugged. Good Luck.

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Ken McWilliams

09-29-2001 18:23:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to John, 09-29-2001 12:53:08  
John,

I started with a 3 roller early CASE 310 and began to look for a parts tractor. I bought a CASE 310D which is several years newer and has the 4 roller under carriage.

Yes, the idler slides/brackets are much beefier than the early version.

I changed my plans and the parts tractor became the project and the project tractor became the parts tractor.

How was your suspension modified to be stationary?

KRM

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John

09-30-2001 06:49:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to Ken McWilliams, 09-29-2001 18:23:23  
Ken, Suspension was "fixed" with bolt through existing holes in plates. John



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KRM

09-30-2001 09:20:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Eliminating sprung suspension from a crawler in reply to John, 09-30-2001 06:49:27  
John,

Thanks, that's what I plan to do, also. It just seemed to be too easy, and I must be overlooking something.

KRM



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