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JD 1010 crawler

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Chuck430C

09-09-2005 07:04:15




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Found a 1010 crawler. Seller says "it runs but will not move forward or backward". He says he was "pushing with it and it just stopped moving". He says he feels it is the "reverser shaft broken".
Any ideas what would stop one from moving? What might be broken and what could it end up costing?




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Roy Suomi

09-16-2005 21:00:43




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 Re: JD 1010 crawler in reply to Chuck430C, 09-09-2005 07:04:15  
Chuck , Put a guage in the reverser control valve. [ under left side floor board } The 1/8 th pipe plug that is straight up is the main pressure tap. It's located near where the 2 pieces of control valve bolt together. The one on an angle is the lube oil pres. tap. You should have approx. 125-135 lbs. at medium engine speed [ with gearbox in neutral.} If no oil pres. either reverser is in need of rebuild, or isolator plate springs gave out [ on flywheel ] I hate to see someone throw money away on an expensive repair on a piece that old. I'm going to take flack on this statement, but here goes. The 1010 -2010 series tractors were not a real efficient machine. See ,I knew someone would take offense aready. But the truth hurts. When I worked for a Deere dealer back in the early 70's, I was talking to an old salesman that sold these machines. He told me that Deere cancelled orders for that series and instead supplied the 350-450 machines as replacements. Then he said Deere scrapped any remaining assembled units back into parts or assemblies for sale as repair pieces.

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Chuck430C

09-10-2005 16:54:30




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 Re: JD 1010 crawler in reply to Chuck430C, 09-09-2005 07:04:15  
If this helps, the seller said that he didn't hear any noises and there was no shudder or jerking or anything like that. It just stopped and would not move no matter what gear he put it in.
Any thoughts will help, I know we are shooting in the dark.



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Roy Suomi

09-10-2005 20:43:43




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 Re: JD 1010 crawler in reply to Chuck430C, 09-10-2005 16:54:30  
Its been a long time since I've worked on a 1010, but does the center section have a removable back cover[under seat frame].If it does,remove the rear plate and see if the ring gear and pinion move when engaging the reverser[ carefully].If no movement i would shoot for the coupling between the transmission and rearcenter section or a reverser problem internally..



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Roy Suomi

09-09-2005 20:46:36




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 Re: JD 1010 crawler in reply to Chuck430C, 09-09-2005 07:04:15  
Could be anything from isolator to final drives..Where should we start. Well known failures include coupler between reverser and transmission.These strip out from rust causing splines to wear out. Reverser countershaft, I've seen this shaft break in a 350 dozer. It made gangs of noise when it failed. Oil pressure loss in reverser from pump or sealing ring failure. Gonna do the reverser work yourself? If not, It's not worth putting so much money into a 1010. In a Deere shop it will cost several thousands to fix.

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bent

09-09-2005 12:24:47




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 Re: JD 1010 crawler in reply to Chuck430C, 09-09-2005 07:04:15  
If the reverser shaft broke, he would have heard it, maybe even seen it. Try some simple things first like checking out the control valve linkage and valve pressures, assuming it is a reverser crawler. Perhaps it could be something as simple as the control lever being stuck in neutral or low oil in the reverser. Hopefully that is all it is, if not, could turn into a big project. The reverser section of the service manual takes up about 1/3 of a 1" and a little bit thick book. Getting the reverser out to work on it is a big job, but not impossible, so pay accordingly. If the seller won"t reduce price because it is a "simple fix", beware, if it was simple he woulda done it.
bent

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