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What Track Loader To Buy??

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Justintime

10-21-2005 12:21:13




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I haven't been around too many machines in my time, and I need some help on what to spend my money on.

Rule # 1. I've got 15-20 thousand to spend. I don't want to spend it all but if I have to oh well.

Rule # 2. I only have a 30,000# trailer to haul it on.

I want as big of a track loader as I can get for my money. I also would like a machine that is little newer, as in not some antique cable operated dinosaur people will laugh at when I try to find parts.

My Primary use will be digging basements and light grading. I've got a big skid loader but digging a basement with a 873 bobcat and a 655 Furd backhoe sux.

Any wisdom would be much appreciated.

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Mike M

11-01-2005 15:35:33




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 Re: What Track Loader To Buy?? in reply to Justintime, 10-21-2005 12:21:13  
Are you digging new basements ? Rent a big track hoe that's what most of the contractors do around here. If you are digging basements under an existing house than you want something small but mighty like a case or deere 450 .



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seann

10-21-2005 15:17:55




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 Re: What Track Loader To Buy?? in reply to Justintime, 10-21-2005 12:21:13  
I like the International/Dresser/Dressta 175C loader. The 175 is a tough, proven design which has been made for over 40 years now (the 175C for about 30 years by itself), so used and new parts shouldn't pose a problem (Dressta is still making the 175C too). These machines are not antique clunkers either (even the ones made in the 70's). It has advanced features like powershift transmission (instead of manual gearshift), planetary steering (which allows turns while applying power to both tracks), power assisted pedal steering instead of manual hand levers, wet clutches instead of old dry clutches that can rust up and seize, and disc brakes instead of the older less effective band brakes. They are also commonly available with 4-1 buckets (highly recommended).

As far as weight, the 175C comes in right at 30k pounds (with about 130hp), so it might just work with your trailer. I've seen these machines selling on ebay and elsewhere in good condition for under $20k, and sometimes well under that. Typically they are a better value (IMO) when compared to a comparably sized/vintage Cat loader. Also, I've always heard that Cat's often require expensive, specialized tools to perform heavy maintenance on them (like final drives and tranny work), forcing the owner to hire a professional mechanic with the required fancy tools. Whereas International and other brands (like Case) typically can be repaired using ordinary tools.

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woodboat dave

10-21-2005 13:09:20




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 Re: What Track Loader To Buy?? in reply to Justintime, 10-21-2005 12:21:13  
I have a 931 cat... 78U ( 1978) and it is a great running machine. parts are easy to get because it is cat ( they actually had the cheapest price on a new bottom) you might want a 941 or 951 if you are doing a lot of basements but the 931 is easy to move around. Good for grading to. good luck



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