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Phil - MO

12-27-2005 06:51:13




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When digging my basement I wound up with needing a lot of fill in the garage foundation. I had to move the basement over because of rock and have about 6' to fill in a 26' by 24' area. I also have an 8' by 40' porch to fill about the same. I have a JD 450 track loader to haul the rock around with.

I don't want the floor to settle, but I wonder if somebody that does a lot of basement digging could tell me if I can mix some dirt with the 2" clean rock I am buying for fill.

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Bradley

12-29-2005 06:59:04




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 06:51:13  
Phil, I'm building a house, and just went through what you are describing. My fill in the garage was only about 4', and I had two porches at 6'X 40', 4' deep each. I used pea gravel in the porches. Took about 50 ton total.

The concrete guy filled the garage using #7 white stone. It took around 35 ton.

Anound here (so. Ind), both are used, in addition to sand. All compact well with very little settling. If you use dirt, you have to make sure you compact as was described in an earlier e-mail, and even then, you will get some settling.

Brad

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Leland

12-28-2005 23:32:07




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 06:51:13  
Sand is cheaper and it settles real fast with just a hose and water



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Phil - MO

12-28-2005 06:41:01




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 Tracks in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 06:51:13  
Thanks again for the information and while I have somebody answering my questions.
By the way I just retired this year and am building the house on 240 acres and trying to stay within my budget.

I have another question.
A few of the track plates are loose on the 450.
The bolt heads are worn of course and under sized so I don't think a socket will work. How do you remove them to put new bolts on or is it necessary?

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DaveK

05-09-2006 09:37:40




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 Re: Tracks in reply to Phil - MO, 12-28-2005 06:41:01  
weld a nut to the top of the bolt head,then turn the bolt out



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Don BC

12-27-2005 10:36:28




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 06:51:13  
Compaction of the fill will be essential to avoid settlement and not just compacting with your tracked loader. The fill should be placed in layers 6-8" deep and each layer thoroughly compacted with a vibrating tamper.



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old

12-27-2005 07:36:38




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 06:51:13  
Depending on where you are in Missouri, a lot of people in my area, the lake of the ozarks use creek rock. The creek rock has a lot of dirt mixed in with it and theres even a few factorys in the area built on creel gravel.



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Phil - MO

12-27-2005 11:32:50




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 Re: garage fill in reply to old, 12-27-2005 07:36:38  
Thanks for the replies.

I'm just south of Rolla, MO., and have heard that creek gravel is the best of all to use.

I have a small creek about 500 or 600 yards from the basement. I tried carrying a bucket load of creek gravel but was worried about wear on the loader going back and forth as to spending $150 a load for gravel from the quarry. The gravel from the quarry truck is about 18 ton and I think around 12 or so cubic yards. If my bucket carries 1 1/2 cu. yard I guess I would need to make 8 round trips or drive the loader about 2 miles to save $150.

I already have bought about 10 loads of gravel and will need 25 or so more, especially when I start on the road to reach the house.
I do have access to a larger creek on a neighboring farm abaout a mile away.

I even thought of buying a dump truck and reselling it, but I have a habit of buying high and selling low, not to mention all the work on the old equipment to keep it going.

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old

12-27-2005 15:17:40




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 11:32:50  
I also forgot to tell you I did what your doing for a liveing before I retired. Drove dump truck and heavy equipment up here at the lake of the ozraks



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old

12-27-2005 15:09:45




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 Re: garage fill in reply to Phil - MO, 12-27-2005 11:32:50  
Sounds like you buy from the wrong persons. I always buy low and sell higher. On an old dump truck you can only buy cheap and sell cheap since they never bring much any how. It will not hurt your loader to drive it back and forth as long as you take your time when doing so. I've done that 1000s of times over the years.



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