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lute

01-21-2006 13:29:07




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Have a fairly clear and level 12 acre pasture of sand and Florida muck (like black dirt only not as good). Would like to strip off the vegetation and crown the field to a height of 30" for drainage for a future sod field/playing field.
What equipment would you recommend in terms of size or brand of tractor, type/capacity of dirt pan, etc.
I would be looking to buy used equipment and sell it when the job is done.
Thanks.

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seann

01-23-2006 06:13:34




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 Re: Moving sand around in reply to lute, 01-21-2006 13:29:07  
I'm not sure if you mean you actually want to elevate approximately all 12 acres 30" or if you only want to elevate a section about the size of a football field. If it's all 12 acres, then that's a huge job and you're going to need some serious equipment for that. If it's a football field size within the pasture then I would think you could get by with an old (but in good condition) medium to large sized dozer. Something like a Cat D4 size or bigger would work. If you have to transport cut soil from some distance away a scraper would probably be necessary too (these can get real spendy). Otherwise a tracked loader and an old dump truck might work ok too at transporting fill fair distances and putting it where you want it.

The price of a D5 sized dozer in decent condition varies a lot. Manufacturer, model, size, age, condition and location all drive price. Cats are generally considered to be the best (along with Komatsu) but are also the most expensive, look to pay about $20k or more for a nice D5 or larger in size. Although you might be able to find an old D8 from the 50's or early 60's in decent shape for considerably less (like $5-$10k). I'm mostly familar with IH, you could probably get a 70's model TD15 dozer or a 175 tracked loader in good shape for about $15k. An old but serviceable dump truck could be had for about $1000 (not necessarily roadworthy) if you shop around.

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lute

01-23-2006 12:35:52




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 Re: Moving sand around in reply to seann, 01-23-2006 06:13:34  
The property has drainage canals on two sides. As I understand it, their needs to be a 30" slope from the centerline of the property down to the canals. The drainage issue is because of an average 65 inch annual rainfall.
The way it was described to me, first the vegatation is stripped off and stockpiled in one corner. Then the centerline of the property is excavated, with the white sand stockpiled in one corner and the muck in another. Excavation continues as necessary to separate muck from sand.
Eventually all the muck and vegetation gets buried in the middle portion and the white sand is used to cover and grade.
A friend of mine who did this used his articulating tractor and bought a pan scraper and dozer. It took him about 6 months working on it when he could find spare time. I am told that if you hired the job out it would cost $100,000 or quite a bit more depending on the amount of muck.

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bgoathill

01-22-2006 10:06:46




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 Re: Moving sand around in reply to lute, 01-21-2006 13:29:07  
Here is some equipment we have that I think would work good. A KP1325 Steiger Panther pulling a 20 yd Reynolds scraper and a D6 sized dozer. Also an older motor grader will be real nice to finish grade the whole site. A laser with grade and a grade-eye set up on the machines will make easy work of it. $100,000 will set you up but you should easily get that back when you are finished.



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