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D7 17A track lubrication

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Larry Henderson

02-20-2006 12:55:59




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Looking at operators manual, my dozer has track rollers and track carrier rollers that need lubrication. How is this done? It has a 7/8" hex head with a black plug in it. Do these plugs pull out? I couldn't get it out with channel locks. What kind of grease is best to use?

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Larry




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Billy NY

02-20-2006 13:44:28




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 Re: D7 17A track lubrication in reply to Larry Henderson, 02-20-2006 12:55:59  
If these are the button head type fittings, that you slide a coupling over they required the use of an Alemite volume pump, to pump in something called track roller grease, which today's equivalent of an 00 grease, like MultiFak and others, see your oil and lube supplier, it's a stringly tacky, similar to chainsaw bar oil in consistency, ( do not use bar oil ) You can find used Alemite volume pumps, Alemite is still in business and they can be bought new as well. Some people have adapted or used a grease gun, but you must be careful regarding pressure as you can blow out the seals on the rollers with a grease gun, a volume pump has a pressure relief and does not operate at high pressures like a grease gun.

After re-reading your thread, I am thinking you may also have another type, if they are not the buttonhead fittings, I understand that these require you to take out the plug and fill with 30 Wt. oil.

The button head type have a hex shape under the button head a flared kind of mushroom shaped head that the Alemite coupler slides over and attaches to, pressure forces the check valve to open in the middle, the other later type is just a plug if I am correct I do stand to be corrected here, see if you can determine if it is a button head or not and definitely refer the the manual for your serial number tractor. Might be an upgrade and not in the book. I'm not sure about lifetime rollers, if they are one in the same that use the 30 wt oil, I think modern ones are sealed completely. Taking a stab at it here, correct me if I am wrong. First there were the alemite type, I forget what came next and if it is applicable to the 17A series, and is the one that takes 30 Wt., but if the older button head type, that is the procedure. This gets asked a lot, many different preferences on the alemite types,as to what grease can be found and used, as well as what is used to pump it in, you just have to be careful and not use too much pressure on those, I have not done or used mine in awhile though, used to lube them lightly as I wanted to play it safe with the seals, and I was not running it heavily, you certainly want the rollers lubed even if the seals leak.

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Jimmy King

02-21-2006 10:38:01




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 Re: D7 17A track lubrication in reply to Billy NY, 02-20-2006 13:44:28  
They will cost an arm and leg from them, but your Cat Dealer will have them.



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Billy NY

02-21-2006 12:29:01




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 Re: D7 17A track lubrication in reply to Jimmy King, 02-21-2006 10:38:01  
Check e-bay, the ACMOC and ACME boards for sale sections for used volume pump compressors, I was fortunate to find a really nice original in beautiful shape, I hate to even use it LOL, it cost me $100 and the last time I saw them listed new, they were $265, no matter what, whether you finmd a good used one or have to buy new, it's certainly better than the damage done by running them rollers dry, that certainly would eat the cost of a volume pump to repair.

I see them often, most look well used, but are reasonable, I recall someone on another board found a cache of these in AZ, all were N.O.S. still in the box, amazing what people hoard, and in the condition described he could get quite a bit for them now I would think. There are other means to lube these, like a regular grease gun, with the button head adapter that you can get from Cat, with the pressure relief valve, you would need to speak to someone who has used one of these for this purpose instead of the big volume pump, really need to pay attention and not over pressurize it, blowing out the seals. I recall someone stating that you shouild be able to feel when enough is enough, but that is all I know about it so far.

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jeremy in moses lake

06-18-2007 21:36:41




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 Re: D7 17A track lubrication in reply to Billy NY, 02-21-2006 12:29:01  
I operate my D7 17A almost every day. I lube my rollers every tank on fuel with lightest grade moley open chain lube. I have 350 hrs on the cat since I bought it. No wear at this time. I put the lube in a grease gun messy but works well. And if your seals are good you can feel it when it is full.



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