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bobcat not going in to park

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Jayok

03-17-2006 18:27:10




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when I start it up it goes left with me not pushing the handles and the lap restraint is not down either.. the parking break does not come on and if you park on a hill it will roll it seems to groan a lot when moving it any help would be great..




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jayok

03-18-2006 08:01:07




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 Re: bobcat not going in to park in reply to Jayok, 03-17-2006 18:27:10  
I checked today its a 863 if that is any help.. I tend to think it is the pump going bad does anyone know a good place online to get a new pump from? or it it easer to just get it from a dealer by me?



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JCSinGA

03-18-2006 12:32:56




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 Re: bobcat not going in to park in reply to jayok, 03-18-2006 08:01:07  
Well this is a new problem usually people cant get the brakes to unlock (LOL).

Most likely someone in the past has had brake release problems and have taken all the parts out that apply the brakes to get it to move again.

Its done electrically with a solenoid (among other things) under the seat, and they do give a bit of trouble from time to time, sometimes it is a bear to fix, searching for an electrical problem on a Bobcat is not my favorite thing to do.

I doubt if your pump is going out, likely what is needed is a steering neutral adjustment. Drive pumps on all skid steers whine and the problem, of course gets worse with age. As long as you cant tell the machine drive getting weaker or getting slower as it warms up you dont have a pump problem.

Alot of the 863's used servo steering which is not a bad thing just a little more aggrivating about keeping the steering centered so it doesn't creep, which is what your describing it's doing at start-up.

Find someone to adjust your steering, run it and enjoy a tough well built machine, it is the machine I would purchase were I to find myself not able to do without one.

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Jayok

03-18-2006 12:49:33




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 Re: bobcat not going in to park in reply to JCSinGA, 03-18-2006 12:32:56  
thanks I have looked more in to it now I found one side that clamps around the shaft had come loose looks like the creeping is fixed.. I want to take a look at the breaking system on it because I think you are right someone might have messed with it but I not sure where to look or what to look for do you know where I can get a parts break down of it.. If nowthing ealse I'm jsut going to leave it alone Im happy to see thatit is not stuck in gear anymore...

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JCSinGA

03-18-2006 14:42:50




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 Re: bobcat not going in to park in reply to Jayok, 03-18-2006 12:49:33  
I've never saw a parts breakdown online anywhere for a Bobcat. If you have a dealer close they would probably print you off a sheet off the computer or if you can find a cooperative dealer they might fax one to you.
What you'll be looking for is under the cab, raise the boom all the way, 863 Bobcats usually have an orange boom lock above the right hand (sitting in the seat) lift cylinder, pull the pin and let it fall into place. If the boom lock is gone use your own judgement as for a way to keep the boom arms up, but do something, there has been many killed from skid steer boom arms falling and crushing bodies.
Then you have 2, 1/2" nuts (3/4" wrench size) that keep the cab down in the front 2 corners remove these and roll the cab back, here again there should be a lock on one of the struts to hold the cab up it should pop into place as the cab is raised.
Then look about middle of the machine, on top of the chain case for a gold colored solenoid with 3 wires red, black and white that go to a connector. The solenoid will be bolted down with 2, 1/4" bolts (7/16" wrench) remove these bolts and the solenoid and see if there is any parts in there, there should be a shaft that slides up inside the solenoid that will stay in the machine when you pull the solenoid off.
Good to hear that the creeping got fixed.

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