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Dozer Recommendations

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Poli

03-26-2006 23:53:36




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Have absolutely no experience with dozers. Have 29 wooded acres that I'd like to cut a 10-12 foot clearing around, cut some roads thru and some stumps I'd like to remove. How big of a dozer do I need (HP)? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.




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seann

03-27-2006 19:56:30




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 Re: Dozer Recommendations in reply to Poli, 03-26-2006 23:53:36  
I have a lot about half the size of yours and have performed much of the work you describe over the course of the last few years. I bought a decent size old International tracked loader (a 1969 150 Drott loader) and found that it is a great machine. It performed all of the tasks I needed very well. In my opinion I would get the biggest tracked loader you can afford, and make sure it has a good uncarriage and is in good shape so that it will be reliable for you. You'll have enough work cut out for yourself with the clearing and road building without fixing a big piece of iron on top of that. At a minimum I would get a something in the 20,000lb size with at least 70 hp. I would insist on getting a 4-1 multipurpose bucket (or a "clamshell" bucket), and if you have rocky soils a ripper too. A winch would be nice if you're going to be dealing with a lot of trees, but not absolutely imperative. If you can get a detachable backhoe that would be great, but they are a little hard to come by on mid-size and larger loaders. And while it's true a backhoe is better for removing stumps, I've dug out many a big stubborn oak stump with my loader no problem.

One thing people always say that's bad about a loader is that it digs up the root ball (with a bunch of dirt on it) along with the stump making them hard to burn. I found that by chafing the exposed root ball (after the stump is out of the ground) with the bucket teeth, most of the dirt can readily be removed. Then pick the stump up a few times with the clamshell bucket and drop it a few times. This also shakes nearly all the dirt off, leaving only the root structure - which burns very well in your pile. So from my experience, as long as your loader is of decent size and has the 4-1 bucket, it'll remove any stump and prep it for efficient burning. Plus it'll pop the smaller stumps out like sprigs of brocolli if all you have are smaller trees.

The 4-1 bucket opens up and can be used as a dozer blade too, which is very handy for road building, grading and building sloped banks. Also the grabbing action of the 4-1 will enable you to pick up whole trees and move them around as easy as pie. Big piles of brush, stumps, rocks, whatever - just grab it with the 4-1 and move it where you want it real easy. Overall the 4-1 bucket is fantastic, I would definitely make it mandatory if you decide to get a loader.

As far as specific models are concerned, there's alot of good candidates. It really depends on how much money you want to spend. There are lots of great old machines around that will serve you well, just make sure you get the right one that has been well cared for and maintained. Here's a few to consider:

Cat - 941, 951, 955, 977
IH/Dresser - 125, 150, 165, 175, 250
AC - HD5 and bigger
Case - 850, 1150, 1450
Komatsu - D31, D41, D53

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Pete Russo

05-03-2006 20:43:06




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 Re: Dozer Recommendations in reply to seann, 03-27-2006 19:56:30  
Need information for a Drott 150.
I need to find out if it is possible to get any parts for 1970 drott
150 and if there are any manuals for this model. Thanks



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Billy Ny

03-27-2006 07:06:04




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 Re: Dozer Recommendations in reply to Poli, 03-26-2006 23:53:36  
If you don't have a lot of large stumps and rocks, a dozer should work well, but if not, you may want a hoe to deal with the digging aspect of these things. That is a matter of preference, but I've excavated ponds in some of the rocky areas in the mountains here and it was no fun, especially with a smaller D-3, D-4 size dozer.

You want to make sure you protect yourself from trees, older ones without roll over protection structures, R.O.P.S or with questionable home made brush canopy's, will not provide suitable protection from a limb or a tree falling. You need to push up high on a tree, usually after digging out the base, to knock it over, I preferred cutting them down, taking the logs, burning the brush, and dealing with the stumps using an excavator, no matter how you do it, clearing can be a lot of work. Hard to comment on without seeing the site, but no matter what you decide on, (I'd guess and say a D-6 size machine might be nice to have for this and or a crawler loader same size ) make sure you consider your safety, and have the machine looked at by a competent person, to determine its condition, and if you are new to operating one, get an experienced operators advice or help teach you, it'll be fun to learn. Everyone has their preferences on brands etc. but if you find a candidate, you can always ask about it on one of these kind of forums.

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stressfree

03-27-2006 03:51:47




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 Re: Dozer Recommendations in reply to Poli, 03-26-2006 23:53:36  
im taming 10 acres of mountain ground,you need a 3in 1.look for a case or john deere 450 with a backhoe attachment with a 4/1 bucket.you have a loader to push the trees over a backhoe to dig out rocks and a dozer to push fill.



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