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353 detroit rebuild blower

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rob kasisky

05-24-2006 20:57:03




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hello folks i'm getting ready to rebuild a 353 detroit and was looking for a few pointers on these .have rebuilt many gas motors but no desiels also looking for a rebuildable blower left hand side older unit not sure of its age .serial# 3d12688 motor. any help would be great .new to this site. thank u rob




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NC Wayne

05-25-2006 18:23:25




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 Re: 353 detroit rebuild blower in reply to rob kasisky, 05-24-2006 20:57:03  
Hey Rob, I've rebuilt quite a few of the two stroke Detroits over the years, 53's, 71's and 92's, inlines and V-s. About the only thing I haven't done is a "multi-block" engine but I know how to read the manual and I know where all the tooling is if that should ever come up. I also rebuild the blowers myself. The thing about rebuilding the blowers is you have to have the proper tools to remove and reinstall the bearings or tear something up trying to do it any other way. I can tell you a rebuild kit from Detroit (4 bearings and 4 seals) was fairely expensive last time I bought one. If I remember it was nearly $200 but you can't get the pieces anywhere else any cheaper that I could find anyway unless you run up on a set on ebay. If you consider the typical labor rate and the time it takes to build one plus the price of the parts you did pretty good with the one you got, except for the core charge. Keep an eye on Ebay, you can often buy one for $200 give or take. Problem with the smaller blowers is their still popular with the hot rodders so they fetch a pretty good price if you run up against bidding against you. You can also catch a set of blower tools for a decent price on occasion. Another thing you'll need is a piston loader for a 53 series engines. Unlike most engines the pistons in a Detroit are loaded in the liner before it's installed in the block. This is because they have to load in the liner from the bottom because of the sharp,tapered shape of the oil control rings. If you try loading them from the top or without a proper loading tool you'll break them and then have to buy another complete set of rings because their not available seperately. Have an extra set of rings handy, just in case, when you load them or everything will come to a screaching halt when you accidentally breaks a set. I've got several sets lying around missing the oil control rings because it's not a matter of "will" you ever break one, it's a matter of "when". Be careful installing them too, they are sharp and will cut you if you get against them the wrong way...One trick of the trade for you. After you load the pistons in the liners put the assembly in a freezer til it gets good and cold. It'll shrink just enough that it will go in the block alot easier than it would at room temp. If you have any questions when you get around to rebuilding yours feel free to write and ask. I'll either know the answer off the top of my head or can check the book the next afternoon and get back to you. My email is Nota55Nomad@AOL.com. Take care and good luck. Wayne

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BEWILDERED

05-25-2006 06:30:16




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 Re: 353 detroit rebuild blower in reply to rob kasisky, 05-24-2006 20:57:03  
I did an in frame on one in a Dynahoe. I myself had never worked on a diesel before. Simple motor and very straight forward. What I did will drive purists right up the wall. The 3-53 is the engine that was installed in thousands of militarty gama-goats and like you I needed a blower also. I searched around for military surplus ones that had been rebuilt and never installed. All the major components where interchangable, bearings, rods, pistons, sleeves, and the blower most important. In my search everyone wanted more for the blower than the whole engeine. I reused my head and installed the military injectors, local diesel shop told me it would be okay, actually have a little more power. I cant remember his name wish I could, but a diesel mechanic from NJ walked me through the rack setup one step at a time. Just remember on start up to have a piece of pylwood handy to put over the blower to shut it down if something is not right on the rack. It will suck anything less right into the blower and break it. I have never done it, but the man who helped me with the rack said it would. I guess I should have mentioned it before, the reason for the surplus engines. I bought four for 300.00 dollars. Assembled a second one from the parts and sold for 600.00 It paid for the gasket set. I really enjoyed that project, hope you do to.

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rob kasisky

05-25-2006 17:33:56




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 Re: 353 detroit rebuild blower in reply to BEWILDERED, 05-25-2006 06:30:16  
Bewildered: Thanks for the info. If by any chance you remember the guys name/number for the rack set up let me know, I"d greatly appreciate it. I just purchased a 53 service manual from e-bay. The guy who is helping me rebuild the motor has never done any two stroke diesels but has done many gas and diesel rebuilds. I found a blower through PC Industries in Wyoming. You are right the blower is more expensive than the rebuild kit for the motor. I"m doing an out of frame rebuild. Paid $356 for rebuild blower but the core charge is $500. Looking for a blower to get some of my money back. Thanks for the reply.

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