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Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ?

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chuckinnc

06-20-2006 13:28:49




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I just bought a 2 year dozer & the sprockets, track, idlers are all like new. I need to what usually causes a dozer to throw a track? I have
alot of steep grade land i need to work. Also for farm use about how ofter do you greese the idlers & adjust the tracks?




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Charlie

06-21-2006 17:46:53




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
I have an old machine but with a pretty good undercarriage. Backing up puts any slack underneath, instead of on top, and if I'm turning and on a rocky slope at the same time, I need to watch for track problems.



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Mike M

06-21-2006 13:21:28




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
I had a Case 450 once that was throwing tracks terrible for the guy I bought it from. I found out the sprockets were for the wrong width track frame this made them run at an angle.



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Bob Plumadore

06-21-2006 06:53:54




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
at 2 years old you should not have robles keeping the track on. A lot of people get a new undercarriage and for get about the track guiding guards
all the cats for the past 40 years has had bold on wear strips tht never get replaced,the guide guard wear out



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seann

06-20-2006 19:59:16




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
I've heard some old timers say that the skirts, or rock guards that cover the rollers, help to keep the tracks on while running on slopes. Otherwise if everything is nearly new and properly adjusted the tracks shouldn't be popping off on you.



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Billy NY

06-20-2006 19:34:31




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
Not sure if you are talking about a late model or 20 years old. I know on the older cat's there are fittings on the rollers, carrier rollers, idler and sprockets for filling with an Alemite or similar volume pump, using an 00 or similar grade tacky kind of grease, reminds me of chainsaw bar oil in consistency. The newer ones, most if not all these components are sealed and lubed at the factory, at least the major manufacturers I'm aware of are, especially undercarriage components.

Being attentive always helps, keeping an eye on the tracks if possible, hard to watch while you are working. I the undercarriage is like new as mentioned, then you should have plenty of space left on the adjuster, that is always a plus.

Keep your tracks adjusted per the Mfr.'s instructions, my old cats are 1 1/2" - 2" above the carrier rollers, give or take. Not too tight, that will cause excessive wear, too loose the same, and will be easier to roll a track off.b In the snow, the sprockets can pack with snow, and make the tracks tight, can run them looser than normal in deep snow.

If the tracks are adjusted, chances are it will be hard to toss one. Working on the sides of hills, muck, both while turning will always find a loose track for you, especially the muck. Making harsh turns on uneven ground will throw one too, working on sidehills and uneven ground does increase the wear factor. Backin up while turning hard can also find a loose track, it slackens up while backing sometimes and can walk off the idler.

You probably have a grease type adjuster, you pump grease in per the MFR's instructions, should also be a way to relieve the pressure, to loosen them as well.

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`Bernie in MA

06-20-2006 18:07:26




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 Re: Keeping a dozer from throwing a track ? in reply to chuckinnc, 06-20-2006 13:28:49  
I have found with my JD 420C that if I lock up the brake so that the track stops while making a turn will help keep the track on. I grease the rollers and idlers about every 20-30 hours of use and tighten the tracks when they sag, for my limited use once a year. The 420 is not as easy to adjust as later years.



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